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Old 05-07-2021, 05:06 PM
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Exclamation Bent valves/pushrods questions (1960 389)

I had the timing chain jump out of time on my 60 389. So far got the timing chain & gears replaced and the car timed. Seems to run fairly ok, but suspect I likely have some bent valves. Per the manual the compression spec @ cranking speed is supposed to be 200-210. Back in 2008 I did a compression test and got the following...
190
185
194
193
205
188
186
191

The range today varied from a low of 155 to 175 for a high. The car sat for a couple of years so I dont know if that could be a contributor to the lower numbers or not. Question...what is the likelihood of having bent pushrods wo also having bent valves? Doesn't seem likely to me. I think pulling the valve covers is next on the agenda. Opinions/comments?
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Old 05-07-2021, 05:15 PM
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Please don’t tell me that chain and gears where still stock!
Anyway the stock 4 bbl 472 cam used in 1960 still had .400” lift at the valve and with a high compression 4 bbl head I bet it’s a interference fit motor as I don’t recall those early motors having much of a valve notch in the pistons,

In short I think you indeed might have some bent valves!

A leak down test will tell you in 30 minutes what’s going on or not.

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Old 05-07-2021, 05:38 PM
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Ok, I won't tell you ( cause I don't know the complete history of the car) . Btw, the engine is the high compression 2Brl, 283 horse. Same as the 4Brl motor]. Thx for the repl.

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Ok, I won't tell you ( cause I don't know the complete history of the car) . Btw, the engine is the high compression 2Brl, 283 horse. Same as the 4Brl motor]. Thx for the reply.

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Old 05-07-2021, 07:07 PM
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I had the nylon timing gear round the teeth off on a 67 Le Mans with a 326. It tweaked a valve, I drove it like that for probably 2 years with that slight miss at idle. Once you got the RPM up the miss went away. It ran perfectly before the timing gear broke so I'm sure it bent one of the valve heads, but very slightly so it only missed at idle in gear.

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