[charlie66]

I'm modifying a Torker intake to make the 4 front runners wider, and while im in there im going to even out the stepped floor. So my question is do I go with the lower floor or the upper floor level? Its for a boosted engine. Originally I was going to lower the floor for more plenum size and port size , but then I started looking at the whole picture and the lower floor/runners go so flat from the plenum to the head flange where the higher floor/runners are high and have a nice pitch / slope downward to the flange . To me it seems the lower runners kind of fall off like a cliff as the air enters the head port, where the higher ones look like the air will enter in a more smoother flowing manner. Also if it was higher would it have better velocity and throttle manners?

Thanks ...

[charlie66]

So I decided to raise the front floor to the same level as the back because it was less work. Being its going to be used for boost I don't think 5/8 of a inch will really matter. So far I made the front runners and hot glued it together for mock up.. Next is the back ones and then to finish with the floor.

[Tom Vaught]

Give you a lot of credit Charlie, removing the poor runners and making your own runners to match the rear ones is a job, but possibly less actual work vs doing a split manifold. (two Rear sections like I did.)

Tom V.

[charlie66]

Thanks Tom.

There was a moment where I stepped back and looked at this gutted what used to be Torker manifold and said to myself what have I done there's no coming back from this one.. haha. But then I just went with my thoughts and let it unfold .. Now it seems like no big deal. I have a good idea for the rest of them already. The hardest part was shaping the runner wall and twisting it to go parallel with the divider .. I had to make up a tool to do it.. I got a nice chunk of 1/2 aluminum for the floor. I'm going to try and pitch the floor to each runner with the center at a flat peak...

[taff2]

Is there a particular reason you are modding a Torker 1 rather than using a better manifold such as a Victor?

[charlie66]

Hood clearance mainly . 2 1/4 inch difference.. I need hood clearance . I'm not chopping a 1964 got hood...

I've owned this manifold since I was 22 . Used to run it on a 389 that ran low 12's . I guess im a little attached to it too. haha. I probably could of got something like a Holley street Dominator or something like that but I don't see why I cant make this one work. All you really have to do is get boost into it an keep turning the knob till your happy right.. Im actually having fun doing this anyway. I like the challenge.. I have all winter ..

I guess you're not a fan of this one?

[charlie66]

One thing I noticed about this particular Torker , not saying all Torkers are this way, but this one the driver side back runners are 1/8 wider half way down heading towards the plenum. That might just explain why number 5 and 7 plugs were always a little learner then then 6 and 8.. Idk I could be wrong , but I don't think so....

[charlie66]

Originally Posted by Tom Vaught

Give you a lot of credit Charlie, removing the poor runners and making your own runners to match the rear ones is a job, but possibly less actual work vs doing a split manifold. (two Rear sections like I did.)

Tom V.

Getting another manifold and matting both back half's together would of been a better way of making this one more uniform but I didn't have another and thought it would be cool to keep the front area between the runners and water crossover looking the same as original ...

I would luv to see a picture of the one you did....

[n2ogpsj462]

Ditching the 4cyl or just a stay busy project?

[charlie66]

Originally Posted by taff2

Is there a particular reason you are modding a Torker 1 rather than using a better manifold such as a Victor?

I also like one off things that no one else has..

[JSPONT]

I have a home for that victor if you are not using it! LOL
Nice job Charlie, you are motivated for sure.

You make headers yet??

[charlie66]

Originally Posted by n2ogpsj462

Ditching the 4cyl or just a stay busy project?

Man that is a loaded question. haha

I'm not but I am. I know that makes no sense.

The 4 cylinder is like having a bipolar girlfriend its very unpredictable . Its happy one second and the next millisecond its not. I like it most of the time because its got cool factor and it gets tons of attention no matter where I bring it , the car is basically like a movie star, im not kidding everyone piles around it to look at the motor as soon as I pull in to any local car show.. .it has a reputation around here for more then one reason . But at the same time I can't afford to build it the way it needs to be built for the power level I want It to live at. If I get a crank made for the 4500- 5000 dollar's Moldex wants to build one for, a big question comes to mind that stops me quick. What will be the next weak link. In my mind its the block . I had a chance back when I started building it to buy a Super Duty block (very rare) but didn't because the guy wanted 1400 just for the block. so I went with the other block he had for 400. At the time it seemed like the better choice because I didn't know where I was going with this and how successful I would be at actually getting it built. there's not a lot of parts out there for it . So I called Nunzi and told him about it . In an earlier conversation I had with him prior to this one he assured me I would never find one , boy was that far from the truth for me. He didn't believe me at first because of the rarity of the block . But after the guy Andy that had it called him he bought it for 1000 bucks . It kills me every time I think about not buying that block. If I had the block I would get the crank made and have a 1000 hp 4 cylinder all day long .. An to rub it in more the machinist that did Nunzi's block did mine. He told me that that block was so hard to bore because of the high nickel content it had. He said he was afraid it was going to break the boring bit it was so hard when boring... he said mine cut like butter. Anyway right now the cam is out and back for the third time to the guy that made it because one of the lobes keeps going bad. Just like a pimple something keeps erupting from underneath , it seems there was a defect in the core . So when he gets back from the PRI show he's going to evaluate it and tell me what he's going to do. So there you got a short history of what its like doing a 4 cylinder. Its just hot and cold all the time.. So yeah im building a 8 cylinder for the future because of the rocky road I've had so far. It will make the same power at 12 psi then dealing with 38 psi and do it reliably .. Sorry for the long answer, you just got me thinking....

[charlie66]

Originally Posted by JSPONT

I have a home for that victor if you are not using it! LOL
Nice job Charlie, you are motivated for sure.

You make headers yet??

I told you last year I wanted to trade you for your warrior but you sold it..

No , but I have a good idea thanks to Tom V and Taff ... It will eventually all get done..

I'm only one poor bastard with too much time on his hands .... Lol

[n2ogpsj462]

It does make sense especially for reliability. What cubic inch? If I were to start over I think I'd do a 3" main 440.

[JSPONT]

Originally Posted by charlie66

I told you last year I wanted to trade you for your warrior but you sold it..

No , but I have a good idea thanks to Tom V and Taff ... It will eventually all get done..

I'm only one poor bastard with too much time on his hands .... Lol

I'm a poor bastard with NO time on my hands!!

[charlie66]

Originally Posted by n2ogpsj462

It does make sense especially for reliability. What cubic inch? If I were to start over I think I'd do a 3" main 440.

For me its the smallest stroke and big bore.. So with out spending a lot of money getting the stroke that id like, im stuck with a 400 .035 over with a 3.75 stroke.. it will make more power then I could ever use...

[charlie66]

Originally Posted by JSPONT

I'm a poor bastard with NO time on my hands!!

Oh believe me, I've learned that to be true....

[charlie66]

I redid the front runners for the third and last time now. The roof was too wide and had to squash it down some . also made a divider for the two runners . It will all blend with the weld and a grinder...

[Tom Vaught]

If I can get some pics of my Split back-half Torquer intake I will post them up, Charlie.

Tom V.

[73 TRANSAM]

Charlie,
I am very impressed with your work on this intake. Keep working on it.