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Old 03-31-2020, 08:26 PM
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Has anyone repaired the section of tail panel above the tail lights? This tail panel rotted from the trunk seal to the tail light opening. This is like 5 bends in less than 2 inches. I'm just wondering what you guys did. Cat and bonne tail panels dont have the cut outs for the tail lights and i'm noticing this 1 year only is about as rare as frog fur.

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Old 03-31-2020, 08:28 PM
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Sometimes you gotta stand back, grab two pieces of angle iron and a BFH and sort it out. 2 hours, some swearing, and.....you’re done. Lol


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Old 04-01-2020, 08:38 PM
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Thanks. It’s all hidden but, after 5 years of working on it, no point in half assing it. The number of bends kinda concerned me, to the point I was looking for a brake. Measure twice, bend once. Lol


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Adam, have you tried Frank's Pontiac Parts in CA or Steve Barrack at Pontiac Heaven in AZ (a member here)? Unless you've spent some time using a sheet metal brake and are comfortable bending compound curves I'd be attempting to find a usable one. One more place to try is Steve Snyder at Colorado Pontiacs (on Facebook).

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I’ve bent many a piece of sheet metal on a piece of angle iron ,attached to my bench. Hammer Time !

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Adam, have you tried Frank's Pontiac Parts in CA or Steve Barrack at Pontiac Heaven in AZ (a member here)? Unless you've spent some time using a sheet metal brake and are comfortable bending compound curves I'd be attempting to find a usable one. One more place to try is Steve Snyder at Colorado Pontiacs (on Facebook).
Thanks HH. Franks only has a cat tail panel. GP is punched out for the taillights. Dan's Garage in Washington appears to have one but, i think i worked it out. Check out the photo above. First try and i almost got it mint. another hour of messing around and make sure it's as good as i can get it and weld it in.

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I’ve bent many a piece of sheet metal on a piece of angle iron ,attached to my bench. Hammer Time !
Two 3" x 3/8" angle iron holds it good and tight. to bend over 90 i grabbed a piece of flat bar to sit up above the angle irons. i'm glad it worked out and i saved roughly $400CDN minimum. Small wins. lol

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Float a little lead in there......you can do it !

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Hahaha. Now there is something I’ve never tried! I saw Dan Short do it in Fantom Works once. My temporary home office happens to be right in front of my tv lol. I managed to keep the factory braze weld in the corner. This is one of those builds that if I’d have known what I was getting my self into I’d have bought a car that wasn’t a one year model or at least panels were repopped for it. You can’t beat the experience though.


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My 64 GP is from California.....and haven’t had to fix any rust. I put a new Windsheild in it last year....and to my surprise,there was not one speck of rust in the channel.....and all the clips were mint too.

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My 64 GP is from California.....and haven’t had to fix any rust. I put a new Windsheild in it last year....and to my surprise,there was not one speck of rust in the channel.....and all the clips were mint too.

I had a good windshield channel. But the rear window was cancerous. I fixed the channel but the clips I ordered were wrong and I didn’t notice until I went to put the trim on and it stuck out an 1/8”. I got some new clips that are correct. I will put the window in when the trunk is complete. Still a ways to go. I have the same problem on the right side as above so another few days on that. I have to repair the structure down the sides of the trunk opening as well. It appears a fair amount of water invaded this trunk over the years.



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Yup......Iam thinking my back window ain’t as pristine as the front either....someone was in there before...it appears. But Iam not ripping the scab off that ,just yet.

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The inverse slant didn’t help. Water stands in the corners like a champ. As does the lip under the trunk seal. I think that’s how I got so much cancer in the tail. And 20 years in Ontario winters didn’t help


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The inverse slant didn’t help. Water stands in the corners like a champ. As does the lip under the trunk seal. I think that’s how I got so much cancer in the tail. And 20 years in Ontario winters didn’t help


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FYI......when you install the new trunk weather strip....make sure you put down one continuous bead of 3M weather strip adhesive.....may use the whole tube. And a generous bead too.

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