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Lucerne Blue PPG DBC code 26 paint formula wanted
Hello All!
I had a half pint of PPG DBC mixed by my local paint store and it looks more like Adriatic Blue than Lucerne. Does anyone have the formula for Lucerne that they had a camera take a shot of there original paint? The only panel I have left with paint is on the cowl side so I can’t get it to the store for them to scan. Thanks, Stan |
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Totally agree! I guess I could switch brands from what I’m used to. The only other brand local is Axalta. (DuPont sold out to Axalta)
Anyone had any experience with Axalta? |
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These are the codes that supposedly a paint shop can cross reference them to paint now a days?
26 Lucerne Blue Ditzler DDL code - 2213 DuPont Lucite Code - 5190L
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Stuart, get this mixed yet?
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John,
Had 4oz mixed in Axalta (used to be Dupont) and also in PPG. Both colors do not match my original paint on the side of the cowl. Been working with Dust and Sons (local jobber) getting closer with a custom mix. Here is a pic of the Axalta on the left, Original in the center, PPG on the right |
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The Ppg looks like crap. The other one does not look much better. |
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Did you talk to Mike?
He used to be good at 'tinting' the paint to make it match. He mixed my Coronado Gold paint way back, was in Imron then. Painted my dragster that color also.
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John Wallace - johnta1 Pontiac Power RULES !!! www.wallaceracing.com Winner of Top Class at Pontiac Nationals, 2004 Cordova Winner of Quick 16 At Ames 2004 Pontiac Tripower Nats KRE's MR-1 - 1st 5 second Pontiac block ever! "Every man has a right to his own opinion, but no man has a right to be wrong in his facts." "People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid." – Socrates |
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Also make sure they/you get the formula to make it when it matches.
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John Wallace - johnta1 Pontiac Power RULES !!! www.wallaceracing.com Winner of Top Class at Pontiac Nationals, 2004 Cordova Winner of Quick 16 At Ames 2004 Pontiac Tripower Nats KRE's MR-1 - 1st 5 second Pontiac block ever! "Every man has a right to his own opinion, but no man has a right to be wrong in his facts." "People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid." – Socrates |
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John,
I haven't talked to Mike, if I can't get it I will. Not sure Hoppers is able to mix paint. Lincoln / Carquest is pretty much out of the paint business now. I have a good relationship with the guys at Dust in Effingham. I have the formula about nailed down. I have the scales to be able to figure the added toner weights. I tinted my own and am happy with the results. I had them mix 4oz using "my" formula yesterday so it will be a documented repeatable formula. I will do a final spray out tonight then post comparison pics. Thanks!!! |
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Cool!
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John Wallace - johnta1 Pontiac Power RULES !!! www.wallaceracing.com Winner of Top Class at Pontiac Nationals, 2004 Cordova Winner of Quick 16 At Ames 2004 Pontiac Tripower Nats KRE's MR-1 - 1st 5 second Pontiac block ever! "Every man has a right to his own opinion, but no man has a right to be wrong in his facts." "People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid." – Socrates |
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Check the other thread on the same question.
If you have BASF available near you, use their formula. When it comes to old paint codes and mixing formulas, I've found BASF to be damn near spot on every time. A lot of these mix formulas don't match because of discontinued or substituted toners. I use PPG occasionally for custom jobs, but for exact paint code matches, PPG seems to be the furthest off from others. Here is the Lucerne Blue Formula I'm restoring now. BASF products and it matched the original paint found on the cowl perfectly. Last edited by Formulajones; 07-29-2019 at 11:19 PM. |
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Well here’s the spray out. It took a while about 6 trips to the paint store and $200 in paint and toners. But I’m happy with the match. It even matches James welt.
The last pic is comparing to the original paint on the side of the cowl. |
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Looks good.
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Ya that looks better
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Looks good! Nice work!!
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69 GTO 400, 4-Speed, Matador Red 69 SCJ Mach 1 Mustang, 4-Speed, Drag Pack 72 Trans Am, 455HO, 4-Speed, Lucerne Blue 73 Trans Am, SD-455, 4-Speed, Brewster Green 73 Formula, 455, 4-Speed, Ascot Silver 73 Formula, 455, Navaho Orange Survivor |
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Have had a few guys PM me for the formula, Use at our own risk as all the cars seem to be a little different. I suggest you have a small amount mixed and do a test spray.
Any PPG paint store should be able to mix it. PPG DBC------------------------8oz----Pint----Quart---Gallon DMD1680 FINE ALUM.----65.8----131.6----263.2----1052.8 DMD1681 MED ALUM.---59.03---118.05---236.1-----944.4 DMD1676 BLUE------------33.3-----66.6----133.2-----532.8 DMD1607 BLUE-----------29.51----59.03---118.05----472.2 DMD1683 BLACK---------23.35----46.7-----93.4------373.6 DMD1687 MED ALUM.---11.26----22.53----45.05-----180.2 DMD624 VIOLET---------10.54----21.08----42.15-----168.6 DBX1689 CLEAR----------9.11------18.23----36.45-----145.8 DMD1675 BLUE------------8.16-----16.33----32.65-----130.6 DMD1692 RED--------------1.13------2.25------4.5--------18 DMD1684 WHITE-----------1.13------2.25------4.5--------18 ----------------------------------252.32---504.65--1009.25--4037 Last edited by Stan65; 08-13-2019 at 04:26 PM. |
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this may be helpful. code 26 is the same color as Corvette code 976 Mulsanne blue. 69 - 70 M.Y.
sometime more attention is payed to the Corvette hobby http://paintref.com/cgi-bin/colorcod...i?ditzler=2213 |
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I have used PPG for years . a lot of the old colors have not been formulated in newer paints. PPG uses a color library that groups old colors as a closest match. This should have been mentioned buy your jobber if noted on his formula
Even with custom mixing the metallics in new tints are hard to make correct . some of the old colors have a super fine metallic tint |
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Totally agree dld.
Same color across all GM lines. And also the available of toners. I worked with my paint shop and did at least 10 formulas / spray outs. We have it as close as I think we can get it compared to a original paint area on the side of my cowl. One area of concern, the violet toner is already obsolete in the system. So mix it while you can! Stan |
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