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Old 08-16-2019, 01:48 PM
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Default June built WT engine dates (May & July too)

Are there (m)any 1970 June built std engine/mt transmission GTO's here that are either original, or with 100% date/code correct drivetrains?

At a glance, this would be for for 'base' engine GTO's, or for Tempest & Lemans with the optional 400/4bbl engine;
Engine code WT.

I am curious about observed date codes for distributors for June (or May/July) built vehicles;
Distributors with the application code 1111176.

If you have a June (or May/July) built GTO/Tempest/Lemans with a WT enigne could I kindly ask you to share the date code from your distributor?

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I am asking this question in this precise sub-forum because I believe that the production numbers for 1970 Pontiac A-bodies with this engine should absolutely dwarf the 2,381 Firebird Formulas with this same engine - and it seems that very few of the WT powered Firebirds survive intact as built...
(This probably stems from GTO's as always seeming special, while the Firebird's were not.)

Most of the 1111176 distributors I have seen have 1969 dates codes;
The 1111176 distributor that I currently have is dated January 29th 1970;
A member here had offered a February 9th dated one for sale (which I am guessing might be the same one being offered for sale elsewhere).

I am wondering right now about when batches of #1111176 distributors might have been made, and how the stamped date codes of those distributors might relate to the engine casting dates;
I realize that the engines would be dated differently for A-body versus F-body installations, but am guessing that I might be able to deduce when batches of these distributors might have been assembled from observed stamped dates.

I have watched 1970 RAIII/auto & 1970 L78/mt distributors, and it appears as though most everyone that comes up for sale is dated as being assembled at or near the beginning of the 1970 model year - so I am curious to know how many latter batches might have been run.

Thanks in advance for humoring me.

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Quite likely one of few '70 Muncie three speed Formula 400's left.


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2009 Cobalt SS: 13.9 @ 103mph (current DD; makes something north of 300hp & 350ft/lbs)
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Old 08-19-2019, 10:54 PM
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The VIN matching WT in my May built GT-37 did not come with the original distr

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1970.5 Pontiac Tempest GT-37
400ci 4bbl 4sp 3.90:1
12.73 @ 112.42 2011 Pure Stock Drags
12.71 @ 110.58 2013 Martin FAST/FS race
12.70 @ 111.74 2014 Pure Stock Drags
12.60 @ 111.66 2015 Martin FAST/FS race

1968 Pontiac Firebird 400
TH400/3.08 open
export car - factory heater delete
14.48 @ 95.86 w/ 2.14 60' 2018 Pure Stock Drags
14.47 @ 95.02 w/ 2.16 60' 2019 Martin FAST/FS race
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Old 08-19-2019, 11:42 PM
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ok;
thanks

For some reason I thought your car wasn't at all numbers matching!?

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1970 Formula 400
Carousel Red paint on Black standard interior
A no-engine, no-transmission, no-wheel option car.
Quite likely one of few '70 Muncie three speed Formula 400's left.


1991 Grand Am: 14.4 @ 93.7mph (DA corrected) (retired DD, stock appearing)
2009 Cobalt SS: 13.9 @ 103mph (current DD; makes something north of 300hp & 350ft/lbs)
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Old 08-22-2019, 02:50 PM
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only trans was missing. I know of a TH350 being installed, then the current Chevy 70 M21 when I bought the car.
VIN matching motor was rebuilt. not sure what happened to the original distr.

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1970.5 Pontiac Tempest GT-37
400ci 4bbl 4sp 3.90:1
12.73 @ 112.42 2011 Pure Stock Drags
12.71 @ 110.58 2013 Martin FAST/FS race
12.70 @ 111.74 2014 Pure Stock Drags
12.60 @ 111.66 2015 Martin FAST/FS race

1968 Pontiac Firebird 400
TH400/3.08 open
export car - factory heater delete
14.48 @ 95.86 w/ 2.14 60' 2018 Pure Stock Drags
14.47 @ 95.02 w/ 2.16 60' 2019 Martin FAST/FS race
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Old 08-22-2019, 03:03 PM
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huh - cool!

I'm actually surprised at the lack of response;
I would have figured that there are possibly hundreds of original WT powered GTO's, Tempest's, and Lemans' still intact...

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1970 Formula 400
Carousel Red paint on Black standard interior
A no-engine, no-transmission, no-wheel option car.
Quite likely one of few '70 Muncie three speed Formula 400's left.


1991 Grand Am: 14.4 @ 93.7mph (DA corrected) (retired DD, stock appearing)
2009 Cobalt SS: 13.9 @ 103mph (current DD; makes something north of 300hp & 350ft/lbs)
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