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? long shifter H pattern ?
hey folks
68 gto factory 4sp car original NICE car 600hp/600tq new m23z without cuttin much if any do ya think long h- pattern is best ? no lift right foot street / traffic/ houston full passes late nights and dragstrip trips please help me get shi$t together ! thank you for helpin |
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I have the same question. Long or Hurst recommendation and why?
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I have a Long H-pattern on my G101A transmission and it’s light years better than a Hurst (the old ones are better than the newer ones IMO). I’m not sure a Long will fit without tunnel modifications tho (I had to make a custom hump and modify my floor for the transmission and shifter).
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subscribed ...
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GILLIGAN, what rear end ratio are you running with the m23z?
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67 GTO with original floors initially so with a 68 it might differ some. Hurst shifters pivot, but a Long shifter pushes/pulls to change gears; look at some pictures and it’ll make sense.
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I have a factory original 1968 GTO HURST four speed available if you are interested. PM me if you would like photos or additional details.
Tim john--- |
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Is the M23Z considered “pro shifted”. Meaning face plate engagement or non synchronized dog ring? I can’t believe how impossible it is to miss a shift with my long shifter. But yes floor mods are mandatory with it.
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3.90
26 tall stickey swapped tonight and ran 28 tall stickey |
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mine works good considering long H pattern |
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is your LONG the H pattern ? |
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appears to mount higher and to drivers side on H pattern Long |
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running "geometrically" equal gears
gear set # 334 |
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the only experience I ever had with a Long shifter was in a Robert Yates Busch Grandnational car. Excellent shifter, more precious than a Hurst.
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1971 GTO,72 400, stock bottom end, 670 heads, Lunati BMII cam, headers, iron intake Q-jet, four speed. Best 60 ft 1.806in 2004. Best 1/8th mile e.t. 8.46 with 3.55 open rear 85 Grand Prix, 70 400, casting 62 heads stock rebuild, Turbo 350 trans 78 800 cfm Q-jet modified as per Cliff Ruggles book. 87 F350 6.9 4 speed dually A poor man has poor ways. |
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Mine was straight shot and had straight heim joint linkage. Unfortunately the floor mods were mandatory. not sure if you can even find a really good shifter that will performance nice as a long shifter without some floor modifications. the actual landing of the shifter didn’t fit well in my console either was 1968 GTO. I haven’t done any shifter research lately but maybe they make one that isn’t so intrusive.. I can’t see how it would shift as well. Now it’s hard to find yourself justifying cutting up the floor but when I was 20 years old cutting up the floor was just part of normal modifications for us then.
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