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#1
04-08-2023, 03:51 PM
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Gardners vs. Waldrons exhaust
Not looking for a debate on quality as much as which company offers the closest to OEM as possible.
Also, don't need a full system, only over the axle pipes and tailpipes. Any options out there for buying partial systems? Have extensions, muffler, hangers & clamps. Willing to pay for factory Service Replacement pipes, if there's any out there. This TA deserves it. |
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04-10-2023, 03:29 PM
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In hindsight, guess I could have worded this better. Soooooo, just give me your personal experience with replacing your exhaust with original type pipes.
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04-10-2023, 04:32 PM
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All I know about Waldron is, the lead time on their systems can be three months or more. I thought about them myself, but I want my car right for summer and am putting in a Pypes 2.5" X-pipe setup in the unpolished stainless instead, those are readily available.
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04-10-2023, 04:57 PM
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Waldron will sell parts seperately but Gardiner doesn't (unless they changed the policy recently). Both are very busy lately so long lead times but I believe Gardiner is faster now. Gardiner is much more authentic looking and sound quality is closer to factory but Waldron delivers a good quality system, just not up to the same detail level as Gardiner.
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04-10-2023, 05:44 PM
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Waldrons
Waldron's lead time on "Pipes-Only" is not bad (I think it was 4-6 weeks last time I spoke with them). The longer lead times were for complete systems including mufflers from Canada.
I'm VERY please with the components from Waldron and the full systems from Gardner. |
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04-11-2023, 05:25 PM
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Correct over the axle pipes seems to be a hang up with " almost" every manufacturer. This is an area where " close" is NOT good enough as there is no room for errors.
That said; I have had Mineke muffler custom make those pipes on a couple 1970 Camaros I owned. The cars were on their lift, so test fitting was easier. Find a shop with a good custom guy on the bender.. If you have original rusty ones, could be a template too.
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04-11-2023, 05:27 PM
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I am a Gardner " Fan Boy" though..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kx3hN1kTvZo
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04-11-2023, 06:06 PM
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Quote:
Perfect tailpipe extension location too. Tucked up close to the body and slightly angled in towards the center. |
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04-11-2023, 09:02 PM
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My buddy who isn’t a restoration guy. But a really good performance (turbo) tuner knows the gardeners well .he says they are great people and really care a lot about what they do . That makes a big difference to me. But I have no experience myself. I do know the guys on yenko.net swear by them too.
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#10
04-12-2023, 10:11 PM
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Big fan of Gardner
Bought 2 systems from them. Perfect reproductions |
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#11
04-14-2023, 04:35 PM
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Gardner Exhaust is your only choice.
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