[wbnapier]

Does anyone know if this is commercially available?

Spring, pin, clip, and tab. As shown in the photo attached.

For a '65 GTO M/T. Brake lights always on. The switch is run down as far as it can go, and it needs to come up another 1/16" to turn off brake lights. I notice I have no return spring. That would likely solve the issue.

Thank you.

[wbnapier]

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[pfilean]

Perhaps the spring had been over stretched at some time and has a new relaxed length.
Why not just drill another hole in the tab? Or go to the hardware store and get a spring that looks similar and make your own.

[wbnapier]

There is no spring there. I'm not sure whether '65 even had a spring.

In addition to the spring though, there is a pin, clip, and pivot tab which would help the set up. I do have some holes though.

I may try to rig something. Need more time.

[Peter Serio]

If your car is a 4 wheel drum manual brake car then, yes it needs that return spring. If you have to have the exact parts for a restoration then that tab will likely need to come from a GM a body (64-66) parts car. That is something you could also make if you are handy with sheet metal. As I recall that part is made from spring steel, not regular steel. The spring, I would get a new one. a 50+ year old spring like that one is not going to be any good.

[Rich-Tripower]

I bet you could find an adequate spring if you go shopping in a well stocked hardware store. And yes, you DO need that spring.

And if the space you need to gain on the switch adjustment is so small, you might want to try manipulating the brake switch bracket and/or the tab on the brake pedal that hits the switch a bit in the right direction. But regardless, you need to add the spring.

[S Courter]

I have a set like you need. Send me your address and I will ship it to you.
sgcourter@gmail.com

[Rich-Tripower]

Here you go:

https://www.4speedconversions.com/64...assemblyl.html

[tempest1964]

Good link and info for all, Rich. Thanks

[wbnapier]

Score! Thank you both. Two options!

Way better than I could have hoped for.

I'll add this spring and let you know if it solves the issue.

[Dick Boneske]

Neither of my '64's have this spring. The pedals return just fine. Should I be concerned?

[wbnapier]

I doubt it.

My pedal returns fine, just a hair not enough to activate the brake light switch, and there is a tad bit more travel left that the spring will hopefully take up.

[pfilean]

Maybe this will help.

[Slider]

This is my 16yo son at 11pm last night trying to figure out what hole he took the spring out of. Unfortunately my arthritic 51 year old fat ass couldn’t contort enough to get under there to take it apart, and worse put back together. Hopefully this thread will help him find the correct hole to hook it back into.

He’s slowly earning the right to drive her once it’s done.

[Rich-Tripower]

Originally Posted by Slider

This is my 16yo son at 11pm last night trying to figure out what hole he took the spring out of. Unfortunately my arthritic 51 year old fat ass couldn’t contort enough to get under there to take it apart, and worse put back together. Hopefully this thread will help him find the correct hole to hook it back into.

He’s slowly earning the right to drive her once it’s done.

Well, that is certainly getting in there the hard way.

[Slider]

Originally Posted by Rich-Tripower

Well, that is certainly getting in there the hard way.

Unfortunately the way I got it parked in the garage I can only open the drivers door about 12”. Hindsight is 20/20 big time for my adventure.

[wbnapier]

got mine in after a couple hours of hell. I needed to call someone to come help.

1) I removed the front seat, so I could fit.

2) Removed the brake pedal pin to get additional movement upwards to minimize the spring stretch at install.

3) Borrow my kids head lamp (miner's light) as visibility was bad and I needed both hands.

4) Have a friend lift and hold the pedal up.

5) With needle nose in one hand and other and holding tab, stab it.

Throughout the process, I needed a small telescopic magnet, various lights, flat head screw driver, and 3 types of pliers (standard needle nose, long needle nose, and wide tipped).

Not for the faint of heart.

[Slider]

My son got the factory spring installed, but it was then hitting brake light switch bracket. This I assume is due to relocating the brake rod down to the lower hole due to addition of power booster. So I found another spring that came from throttle return spring pack that I bought. After some modification I made it work. I was frustrated with my son not wanting to help (had some lame excuse about homework) so I forced my fat ass under the dash and made it work.

The tool I found that worked best was an old flat head screwdriver I modified by cutting slot in the tip. This worked like a charm getting the spring to stretch and into the hole. Hence the reason you should never throw away stuff like old screwdrivers ad you never know when you have to take a grinder to one to make a new tool.

[wbnapier]

Good call on notching the old screw driver.

The spring works good for me in pulling the pedal up with no leftover slack.

It still didn't depress the brake switch plunger that last 1/2 millimeter, so I put some duck take on the brake pedal where it contacts the switch to shorten the distance.

Such is life.