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Old 04-13-2021, 12:34 AM
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Still assembling the 67, ready for the firewall. I did a search which provided some answers but I have a few other questions since its been a while since this was all disassembled:


1) What is currently the BEST pad to use? The $200 one from Ames or this from Parts Place http://www.ebay.com/itm/1964-67-Chev...6fa099&vxp=mtr I'll pay for the expensive one if it fits and functions the best. The one from PP does look really correct.

2) I know the pad goes on first then everything else, but I am confused about the steering column plate/gasket. Is the knockout for the column simply removed and the pad fits AROUND the plate, correct?

3) Ribbon cable goes on first, then pad...any other wires that need to be run first?

4) I think the overall consensus is the rubber plugs are the best to use, right?

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Old 04-13-2021, 06:33 AM
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I don't recall which pad I went with but likely from AMES.

Yes, the padding around the column base gets removed so as not to interfere with linkage and such. The toe plate keeps everything in place.

The ribbon is laid in first and there should be a slit for it to come through close to the fuse block.

The rubber retaining plugs are more forgiving and correct over the crappy plastic junk that comes with aftermarket pads.

It's best to use some sort of a push tool on either to make installation a little less frustrating.
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Old 04-13-2021, 10:51 AM
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Thanks Jeff, really helpful and yours looks great. I put one of the kick panels in and then realized maybe I should wait. Does it make a difference if they go in first?

You pad looks really correct. If you remember which one you bought let me know. I think I may spring for the more expensive one since its supposed to fit very well and it may be better for blocking heat and noise. The rest of the floorpans/doors etc was sprayed with Lizard Skin.

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Old 04-15-2021, 05:04 PM
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Decided to go with the $200 molded pad from our sponsor

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Old 04-15-2021, 10:16 PM
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KGTO...do you have any "after" pics of the Lizard skin spray out? Thanks...trying to decide which way to go for interior sound deadening.

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Yes I'll get some pics soon...interior is still out

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Old 04-16-2021, 05:55 AM
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Thanks KGTO

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I looked through my files and couldn't find the Pad info;
Everything is logged as Interior pieces,
IIRC it was the better of the offerings at the time (mid 90's)


Not to jack your post but FWIW;
Here are some shots of my floor pans after applying a couple of coats of Spray BOOM MAT a few years back.
I wasn't dealing with any heat issues so didn't think adding the peel and stick stuff was worth it.
I'm pleased with the results and this has noticeably reduced cabinet noise.
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Jeff, That may also be a good option for the interior as I don't have a spray gun for the Lizard Skin. I was planning on using the Lizard Skin or similar product in the rear wheelwells so I would need to get a gun for that anyway...unless the Lizard Skin comes in spray cans too.

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Here are some quick shots, I can take more. From my understanding you need the gun. I had my painter spray it most everywhere except up the firewall. Sprayed the roof too.

I'll try to post a pic of the firewall pad when done too.
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KGTO...looks good...Jeff Hamlin suggested Boom Mat in a spray can and that may work for the interior but I'm not so sure about using it in the rear wheelwells. I may look into getting the right gun for the Lizard skin and do both.

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I don't recall which pad I went with but likely from AMES.

Yes, the padding around the column base gets removed so as not to interfere with linkage and such. The toe plate keeps everything in place.

The ribbon is laid in first and there should be a slit for it to come through close to the fuse block.

The rubber retaining plugs are more forgiving and correct over the crappy plastic junk that comes with aftermarket pads.

It's best to use some sort of a push tool on either to make installation a little less frustrating.
does the heater box go in before the dash pad?

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My painter swears by the Lizzard Skin, we used the sound deadener and the ceramic for heat. I will put a little Dyna Mat in some areas we didn't spray.

Hey Gassman, the inner box goes in after the pad. We installed the firewall side box before the front clip/fenderwells and did it with the strip caulk to seal. When I am ready to install the inner box I'll have someone hold the other side so it doesn't fall but the thought is the Strip caulk will probably keep it adhered just fine until its all bolted together.

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My understanding is that Lizard Skin will sell you a gun but any cheap "Undercoating" gun will do it. Haven't tried it myself yet so just what I gathered from people who have...

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I see that Lizard skin also comes in spray cans...thinking about using that in the rear wheelwells

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The fit of the expensive one was really good, exception is the piece where the column and pedals go. I still need to finish that. The holes dont seem to line up well and I wish they hadn't knocked the piece out separately so it was all together as one. Even if they perforated it so you could choose to remove it.

Before I installed it I trimmed the bottom edge where you could see the foil and sprayed it with a little trim adhesive. Overall I think it will look well.
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