[PAUL K]

Originally Posted by dragracerx2813

Not at all. I would like to know what car did that.

My buddies Buick

[dragracerx2813]

Originally Posted by PAUL K

My buddies Buick

Buick engine?

[PAUL K]

Originally Posted by dragracerx2813

Buick engine?

Yes ..... All traditional stuff. About 530 cid, Stage 3 heads aftermarket block. There's an old video from a few years ago and some engine pictures on my FB page. Also a video of him racing Tuff Enuff a year or two ago.

[dragracerx2813]

Originally Posted by PAUL K

Yes ..... All traditional stuff. About 520 cid, Stage 3 heads aftermarket block. There's an old video from a few years ago and some engine pictures on my FB page. Also a video of him racing Tuff Enuff a year or rwo ago.

I will go check it out. I didn’t think Buick’s ran that hard!

[Bill Eveland]

Good luck with your build buddy

Originally Posted by Dragncar

Tell you what Bill, if I were you I would listen to every........single.......word Paul tells you.
I mean that sincerely.
Match made in heaven IMO. Just want the best for you man.

[PAUL K]

Originally Posted by Bill Eveland

Good luck with your build buddy

I see they are making fun of PY's village idiot again.

[PAUL K]

Originally Posted by Steve C.

Preparing For That First Trip to the Drag Strip

https://www.dapa.org/drag-racing-wit...he-drag-strip/



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That is hilarious!

[PAUL K]

Originally Posted by Dragncar

It went right over your head. Look up facetious.
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You are so sly .... Believe me, I'm well aware you don't have the mental capacity to make three worthwhile posts in a row.

Originally Posted by Dragncar

Ya think Mr K has been down the track more than I ? Won more ?
Curious.

I'm positive I have won a LOT more money and confident you have more trophies.

Originally Posted by Dragncar

You must think someone just throwing it out there that 428s with iron heads and 265 cams make power to 8400RPM is "learning" ?

That was a teaching moment for you.... To bad you missed it. You said 265 duration wasn't enough to RPM in Blank's car..... Another one of your "ain't right" posts.

Originally Posted by Dragncar

Here is the best advice I can give you. Find someone who knows a LOT about cams. Get them to dyno sim your exact combo and find a cam that makes its power in your 2 bolt, studded 455 block at 6500RPM or less.

Yes, insert a quarter and get a cam card... That's how all the Big Dogs do it.

Originally Posted by Dragncar

Here is the best advice I can give you

Four guys asked you questions since your last post. You said you are willing to help why don't you answer them?

[Dragncar]

Originally Posted by PAUL K

You are so sly .... Believe me, I'm well aware you don't have the mental capacity to make three worthwhile posts in a row.



I'm positive I have won a LOT more money and confident you have more trophies. You are a street racer that needs nitrous. What are you without it ?




That was a teaching moment for you.... To bad you missed it. You said 265 duration wasn't enough to RPM in Blank's car..... Another one of your "ain't right" posts.
I did not say "265 duration wasn't enough to RPM Blanks car". 265 is about where he should be IMO. I run about that right now, new engine won't be far off from that either. 265 is not enough duration to pull a 435-440 Pontiac with iron heads all the way to 8400 freaking RPM. "good power", more like over reving it. You can not get enough air in a iron head to pull to 8400RPM with any cam. That is what I am talking about Mr K. Stop trying to straight up lie or twist my words.
"teaching moment" save it Paul.



Yes, insert a quarter and get a cam card... That's how all the Big Dogs do it.
You call Scott Brown like so many others do. Nothing to be ashamed of Paul.





Four guys asked you questions since your last post. You said you are willing to help why don't you answer them?

I see I must have gotten to you. First time I have looked at this thread since my last post. I think it is best to let it sit for a day or two in a contentious thread like this.
Not sure why its contentious though. This thread is about as cast High Ports right ?
600 HP with them is not hard to do.
265 cam can not pull iron heads to 8400RPM
Blank needs more converter to get where he wants to be.
More lift might help, more gear might help, but start at the converter. (and with 93 octane he should have 72cc heads and be at 11.7 CR)
Bill should not cam his High Port engine with 2 bolt mains and steel rods to a 7500RPM engine.
That is all true, so why the contention ?
I will not kiss your ring Paul, I will not tug my forelock, I will not say your are "the man" Paul.
THAT is what it is all about.

[Dragncar]

Originally Posted by Bill Eveland

I shift at 6300, just tried differant shift points to see what it liked, please dont think your actually helping me with all your info. The latest was a block issue and had nothing to do with rpm.

I know where you shifted at Bill. My reference is all about a post you made where people told you you need to go to 7500RPM to make the heads work.
You have a 2 bolt 455 block and doing that is a bad idea.
That is all I am trying to say. And check your piston to valve.

[Dragncar]

Originally Posted by dragracerx2813

Followed a recommendation from Mike Davis and my car picked up. That is the kinda of stuff forums are for. Helping people with their car. But instead we mostly get guys hijacking posts and chest pounding. No wonder no one is ever on here anymore!

I followed a suggestion from Mike too, got drag radials and never looked back. Car picked up.

[Dragncar]

Originally Posted by 65nss4spdGTO

This thread is a perfect example why I don’t post much here anymore.

RPM is your friend when making power, doesn’t matter if it’s a SBC, BBC or a Pontiac. If you think I’m wrong, go watch record setting stock and super stock cars in NHRA.

Carry on.

Calvin Hill
Hill Performance
708-250-7420

Sure RPM is your friend Calvin. But its also "cubic dollars" to get a Pontiac to really turn big RPM and live. You know that. very few, and I mean VERY few of us Pontiac guys can build their engines to live 8K and up.
We all know Mikes story and what he went though doing it. All the big dogs, big RPM guys have 40K+ dollar engines. Some a LOT more.
This thread is about "As cast High Ports" is it not. That takes big RPM off the table. Especially since they are listed at 330cfm when people actually flow them on different benches they are more like 315-320 cfm.
I am sure you do not believe turning a cast crank, 2 bolt 455 with steel rods to 7500RPM is the best idea either.
So what is the problem ?
We all love seeing the big names spinning their 2nd mortgage worth engines to the moon. Only a handful can afford it. Most have been divorced or no wife.
So the rest of us have to get by with reasonable RPM.
BTW, I wish you posted more around here. Even if you do not agree, discussion is good.

[Dragncar]

Originally Posted by Stan Weiss

Do you run a heads up class? We all know the answer is NO. So then what do those wins tell us about your engine building?

Stan

Do you actually race ? We all know the answer is NO.
My engine building ? Well, everything I have done has been with one engine, all the wins. Still running.
Now the engine I am doing now ? I think I can make more power than your dyno sim showed (thanks) I will let you all know. It will be interesting right ?
And you know, I have never said I have anything for the heads up guys. They set the bar.

[Dragncar]

Originally Posted by Mike Davis

Agree, When I was shifting my 421/433 combo's at 6100 the car would only run 10.50's. After some valve spring changes I shifted at 6800 and the car picked up 3 tenths and went 10.20's. Cam swap and more RPM (7200) car has been-- 9.85.

Engine I am doing now should be right about those RPM. But bracket racing mostly it will be run on the lower side.
Engines last a long time doing that. Goal is to run low 10s and keep it below 7K and to let it spin up higher if I want to run faster.
Not interested in putting this engine in the high risk category.
Even though it should take it.

[Stan Weiss]

Originally Posted by Dragncar

I see I must have gotten to you. First time I have looked at this thread since my last post. I think it is best to let it sit for a day or two in a contentious thread like this.
Not sure why its contentious though. This thread is about as cast High Ports right ?
600 HP with them is not hard to do.
265 cam can not pull iron heads to 8400RPM
Blank needs more converter to get where he wants to be.
More lift might help, more gear might help, but start at the converter. (and with 93 octane he should have 72cc heads and be at 11.7 CR)
Bill should not cam his High Port engine with 2 bolt mains and steel rods to a 7500RPM engine.
That is all true, so why the contention ?
I will not kiss your ring Paul, I will not tug my forelock, I will not say your are "the man" Paul.
THAT is what it is all about.

I posted a dyno sim of 428 ci engine with stock 215 cfm irons pulling to 8000-8100 with a 265 0.050" cam. When I get some time I will running that with some stock RAIV heads and see what we get.
Some day you may learn the difference between pulling / shifting at 8400 RPM and making peak HP at 8400 RPM and shifting over 9000 RPM. Maybe John Langer will weight on just how much $$$$ that cost him.

Stan

[Stan Weiss]

Originally Posted by Dragncar

Do you actually race ? We all know the answer is NO.
My engine building ? Well, everything I have done has been with one engine, all the wins. Still running.
Now the engine I am doing now ? I think I can make more power than your dyno sim showed (thanks) I will let you all know. It will be interesting right ?
And you know, I have never said I have anything for the heads up guys. They set the bar.

Why do I think when I made my first heads up pass down a drag strip you were not even born yet?

Stan

[Bill Eveland]

"Us" ? As in how many 8k engine have you built and lasted? Id like to know about your engine building experiance , share with us all how its done o wise one..

Originally Posted by Dragncar

You know that. very few, and I mean VERY few of us Pontiac guys can build their engines to live 8K and up.

[PAUL K]

Originally Posted by Bill Eveland

"Us" ? As in how many 8k engine have you built and lasted? Id like to know about your engine building experiance , share with us all how its done o wise one..

When he windowed his block it shot past 8k ..... So that makes him an "us" !!!

[slowbird]

Originally Posted by Dragncar

Engine I am doing now should be right about those RPM. But bracket racing mostly it will be run on the lower side.
Engines last a long time doing that. Goal is to run low 10s and keep it below 7K and to let it spin up higher if I want to run faster.
Not interested in putting this engine in the high risk category.
Even though it should take it.

Fwiw running low tens and less than 7k rpm is a cake walk. You shouldn't have any issues. Tri-power and hyd flat tappet will get you there.

[Dragncar]

Originally Posted by PAUL K

I see they are making fun of PY's village idiot again.

You know the guy who made that post has blown up two in a row right ?