[Stan Weiss]

So what would a list like this look like today?

Stan

Got this from PZ. http://www.pontiaczone.com/forum/sho...=25451&page=13

Looking to make a list of the fastest pump gas N/A pass made so far. That we know what the record is and we all have something to shoot for. Also you could see where you stand on that list.

OK, just for fun I added a new figure and ranking to the list. I used http://www.dragtimes.com/horsepower-...calculator.php for the info provided with each car to get an idea of the "power ranking" if we cheated and said that air and track conditions (and accuracy of info) were equal among racers.

Just thought I would update the list

http://www.dragtimes.com/horsepower-...calculator.php

1........ 820hp – slowbird (ec) 9.45 @ 141.46 3600lbs 496CI Barton HP

2........ 780 hp - Marcel (SD Performance) 9.939 136.03mph 3920 lbs SD Wide Ports 535 CI

3........ 761 hp - Walter L. 9.73 @ 136.9 weight 3670 lbs... 525 CI..Dan Barton KRE D-Ports...corrected 40 degree whether

4........ 754 hp - Brian Rock 10.16 @ 136.1 3920 lbs. 496 IAII ported High ports (350 ish) standart pushrod location. Tagged and insured.

5........ 753 - Gach 9.45 140 mph 3360 lbs Wide Port E-Heads 505 CI

6........ 751 hp - Robin Roberts 9.50 3450 lbs Ported CV-1's 535 CI (used 138 mph as a guess)

7........ 741 hp - Frank Gostyla 9.96 137mph 3700lbs Unported Tiger Heads 535 CI

8........ 732 hp - Aaronman 9.45 @ 142mph mph Wide Ports 468 CI 1968 Firebird 3200 lbs

9........ 727 hp - Sean Pickett 9.52 @ 138 mph 3350 lbs 380 ported High Ports 510 CI

10...... 701.3 hp - Estep455 9.21 147mph weight 2800 lbs E-Heads...tube Chassis *** registered.

11...... 700.9 hp - Jeff (mysticmissle) 9.86 135mph 3520 lbs unported CV-1's 511 CI

12...... 698 hp - P-Dude 9.78 @ 136 mph 3425 lbs ? 340 cfm SD Performance E-Heads 535 CI

13...... 697 hp - 69Goat1 9.90 ?? mph 3525 lbs Ported E-Heads * 462 CI *** registered. (assuming 135 mph)

14...... 695 hp - Jay Johnson (New Orleans) 340 ported KRE dports,done by KRE 9.20@146mph 2800Lbs. **

15..... 694 hp - 79TA455STROKED 9.81 @ 138 mph 3350 lbs Butler Wide Ports * 462 CI stock block

16..... 629 hp - Eric Nau 9.99 @ 133.34 66 GTO 3280 lbs IAII 535 std PORT E-HEADS 10.25 TO 1 3.73 rear So far it now has 3.89 gears and a corrected converter

[slowbird]

Longer lol
ET/HP hasnt changed much

[steve25]

Stan your missing my buddy's car.
67 GTO, 3200 lb race weight, 505 cid, ported (340 cfm) non wide port E heads, 14.5 comp, 9.13 ET, 143 mph @ NJ Island raceway.

Hp level would seem to be 750.

[68WarDog]

Are these pump gas ( 91/93 octane) applications ?

[slowbird]

Yes pump gas 91/93 octane engines

[Gach]

I’m sure they’ll be a few more added to this list.

[slowbird]

Mine can be updated to 9.05@146.5. The calculator in the first post does seem to work so no idea what it shows for hp

[Stan Weiss]

Originally Posted by slowbird

Mine can be updated to 9.05@146.5. The calculator in the first post does seem to work so no idea what it shows for hp

Brian,
Does it still weigh the same?

I have gone to a different method to estimate / calculate the HP.

http://www.magneticlynx.com/carfor/pont_gas.htm

Stan

[slowbird]

Originally Posted by Stan Weiss

Brian,
Does it still weigh the same?

I have gone to a different method to estimate / calculate the HP.

http://www.magneticlynx.com/carfor/pont_gas.htm

Stan

Weighed 3500-3550

[Stan Weiss]

Originally Posted by slowbird

Weighed 3500-3550

Brian,
Thanks. I used 3525.

http://www.magneticlynx.com/carfor/pont_gas.htm

Stan

[Formulajones]

Is this a HP list or an ET list? Or an estimated HP list based on ET?

Bischoff built dad's pump gas engine, with actual dyno numbers of 724hp and 764 tq with a conventional old set of Edelbrock heads on it, on 91 octane. True street car that is driven everywhere.

Still working on ET's as the rest of the car keeps getting wholesale changes.

[Stan Weiss]

Originally Posted by Formulajones

Is this a HP list or an ET list? Or an estimated HP list based on ET?

Bischoff built dad's pump gas engine, with actual dyno numbers of 724hp and 764 tq with a conventional old set of Edelbrock heads on it, on 91 octane. True street car that is driven everywhere.

Still working on ET's as the rest of the car keeps getting wholesale changes.

A estimated HP list based on ET, MPH and weight.

What is your Fathers name? I can add him as dynoed HP..

Stan

[Formulajones]

Originally Posted by Stan Weiss

A estimated HP list based on ET, MPH and weight.

What is your Fathers name? I can add him as dynoed HP..

Stan

Okay gotchya thanks Stan

Larry Jones.

His best ET to date is 10.89 at 125 with a converter so loose the shift light stayed on the entire pass and occasionally bangs the limiter. Made 3 converter changes, a rear gear change and several other things. I suspect the car will go quicker when everything is right. Stock suspension, small 275 radial tire etc.. Weighs 3980 with him in it.

[Stan Weiss]

Originally Posted by Formulajones

Okay gotchya thanks Stan

Larry Jones.

His best ET to date is 10.89 at 125 with a converter so loose the shift light stayed on the entire pass and occasionally bangs the limiter. Made 3 converter changes, a rear gear change and several other things. I suspect the car will go quicker when everything is right. Stock suspension, small 275 radial tire etc.. Weighs 3980 with him in it.

OK he has been added. Is there a link to a build thread for his engine where I can get some more information?

Thanks,
Stan

[Formulajones]

Originally Posted by Stan Weiss

OK he has been added. Is there a link to a build thread for his engine where I can get some more information?

Thanks,
Stan

Let me dig and find that Stan. It's in here somewhere.

Edit: See if this works? I'm not the best at linking stuff

https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com...d.php?t=788997

And here is some dyno video

https://youtu.be/5WswK-m-zIA

There was another build thread (I thought) with pictures and more detail but I haven't found that yet. It's basically 10.84:1 compression, old set of round port Edelbrocks with bathtub chambers (not wideports) Tony ported to 360 cfm. Victor intake that he modified in his words to kill some bottom end torque, knowing it was going to have a bunch. It's an MR1 block 4.350 bore, with a 4.750 Ohio crank. Dyno'd with the chassis 2" Hooker headers used on the car and runs on 91 pump.

[Dragncar]

I remember that list. It used to be "the" list.

[Stan Weiss]

Originally Posted by Formulajones

Let me dig and find that Stan. It's in here somewhere.

Edit: See if this works? I'm not the best at linking stuff

https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com...d.php?t=788997

And here is some dyno video

https://youtu.be/5WswK-m-zIA

There was another build thread (I thought) with pictures and more detail but I haven't found that yet. It's basically 10.84:1 compression, old set of round port Edelbrocks with bathtub chambers (not wideports) Tony ported to 360 cfm. Victor intake that he modified in his words to kill some bottom end torque, knowing it was going to have a bunch. It's an MR1 block 4.350 bore, with a 4.750 Ohio crank. Dyno'd with the chassis 2" Hooker headers used on the car and runs on 91 pump.

Thanks. I have added some of that information to the list.

Stan

[Formulajones]

Thanks Stan. Never knew there was such a thing. It'll make dad's day.

[Stan Weiss]

Originally Posted by Formulajones

Thanks Stan. Never knew there was such a thing. It'll make dad's day.

Glad I could help made your dad's day. Thank you for the information that you were willing to share.

I have also added a few engines to the bottom of the list for which I have no track data.

Thanks Steve C. for the updated HP and cam information on your pump gas engine.

http://www.magneticlynx.com/carfor/pont_gas.htm

Stan

[ta man]

Darby Otto should be on that list.