[cosgrove]

Originally Posted by John Langer

That's a bingo. Big difference in sucking vs pushing. Pull a rope vs push a rope. Rope still moves. One method more efficient then the other.

Interesting analogy. A rare case where pushing a rope works better than pulling it.

[Mark G]

Originally Posted by Gary Kubisch

Please don't. There's more than enough fenders exits in the world. Your car looks very inconspicuous as is.

Congrats on the progress!

"Leaving in 2nd"... 1.48 ??

I agree with Gary please don't you car is perfect Brian..

[Mark G]

Originally Posted by PAUL K

That is a lie! No head compares to the Edelbrock!

EHTTFMF!

Yep this>>>>>

[LiL Jack]

Originally Posted by Gary Kubisch

Please don't. There's more than enough fenders exits in the world. Your car looks very inconspicuous as is.

Congrats on the progress!

"Leaving in 2nd"... 1.48 ??

Yep, all the cool kids are doing it!

[Mark G]

Originally Posted by LiL Jack

Yep, all the cool kids are doing it!

Be a leader not a follower.... I personally don't like them. Cutting a hole in a perfectly good fender is dumb and your not any faster .. lol And when you blow it up you will be drive in your own oil....lol

[Dave Polichena]

Originally Posted by Mark G

Be a leader not a follower.... I personally don't like them. Cutting a hole in a perfectly good fender is dumb and your not any faster .. lol And when you blow it up you will be drive in your own oil....lol

The risk of driving in your own oil is far greater with the exits under the floor boards. Side exits keep the underneath car much cleaner as well. Mine exit out the sides similar to Langers

[John Langer]

Side exit is the way to go. Especially with a power asset car. These are race cars, not daily drivers. I would much rather have 1600 degree exhaust gas and fire exit the side instead of on my feet. Ever drive a nos pro mod with headers that exit under the car. Your feet burn. It is much easier to pull the trans with side exits as well. Remember, race car. Build it to be able to work on it.

[bad69bird]

Originally Posted by Gary Kubisch

Please don't. There's more than enough fenders exits in the world. Your car looks very inconspicuous as is.

Congrats on the progress!

"Leaving in 2nd"... 1.48 ??

Thanks Gary! Yes, as of now I have a stock gear set in my T-400. I am considering a different gear set.

If I do fender exits, I will more than likely sell my steel fenders and go fiberglass.

I'm also considering zoomies.

[GTOGEORGE]

Originally Posted by bad69bird

Thanks Gary! Yes, as of now I have a stock gear set in my T-400. I am considering a different gear set.

If I do fender exits, I will more than likely sell my steel fenders and go fiberglass.

I'm also considering zoomies.

Oh......no........ZOOMIES!



GTO George

[Dragncar]

Originally Posted by Dave Polichena

The risk of driving in your own oil is far greater with the exits under the floor boards. Side exits keep the underneath car much cleaner as well. Mine exit out the sides similar to Langers

My heap has had open headers with extensions for years. It leaves a thin film of oil everywhere. Dust just sticks to it, messy. I get it what racers do the fender exit thing even thought I do not like the way they look. Zoomies will do it and still keep the look of the car. Anyone remember the side pipe fad of the 70s?
Don't see that anymore.

[Mark G]

Originally Posted by John Langer

Side exit is the way to go. Especially with a power asset car. These are race cars, not daily drivers. I would much rather have 1600 degree exhaust gas and fire exit the side instead of on my feet. Ever drive a nos pro mod with headers that exit under the car. Your feet burn. It is much easier to pull the trans with side exits as well. Remember, race car. Build it to be able to work on it.

I see your point John I just don't like the look .. I been wrong before ..lol

Zoomies are cool as hell ..

[Mark G]

Originally Posted by Dave Polichena

The risk of driving in your own oil is far greater with the exits under the floor boards. Side exits keep the underneath car much cleaner as well. Mine exit out the sides similar to Langers

Ok good to know..

[Mark G]

Just wondering why Sikgoat .John Snyder Jeff Kinsler and many other really fast Pontiac don't have front exiting exhaust.

[John Langer]

With my car, it is physically impossible to have the headers exit under the car. Wouldn’t want them anyway but physically impossible. With the double frame rail how it ties into the mid-plate, not gonna happen.

[Scott Roberts]

Originally Posted by Mark G

Just wondering why Sikgoat .John Snyder Jeff Kinsler and many other really fast Pontiac don't have front exiting exhaust.

They like the extra work of having headers in the way when pulling the trans...
I do wonder if there is loss or gain in hp with fender exits....

[Mark G]

Originally Posted by Scott Roberts

They like the extra work of having headers in the way when pulling the trans...
I do wonder if there is loss or gain in hp with fender exits....

I like the idea of having them out of the way ..Changing converters would be a breeze.. What about flipping the headers exiting out the front fenders should be no power loss.,.

[Scott Roberts]

I'm asking because I don't know..... I know there is power to be gained or loss with headers.... maybe John has done some testing....

[Mark G]

Originally Posted by Scott Roberts

I'm asking because I don't know..... I know there is power to be gained or loss with headers.... maybe John has done some testing....

Well if anybody does know it would be John.. The more I think about it the more I might do it ..Long winter bored .retired .. lol

[Scott Roberts]

Originally Posted by Mark G

Well if anybody does know it would be John.. The more I think about it the more I might do it ..Long winter bored .retired .. lol

Are you n/a or power adder?

[Mark G]

Originally Posted by Scott Roberts

Are you n/a or power adder?

Nitrous