[johnta1]

Ram Air II Roll Call

[pontiacstogo]

Wonder why the instrument bezel on the 74 SD Formula was replaced.

[71GP76TA]

Originally Posted by pontiacstogo

Wonder why the instrument bezel on the 74 SD Formula was replaced.

They probably thought the engine turned bezel looked cooler.. That bezel isn't even correct for a '74. If you notice... The car has 2 RTS emblems.

Cheap looking aftermarket ebay trim rings need to go.

Bird on rear spoiler shouldn't be there.

Car should have been de-personalized prior going to auction.

Nice car and doubt any of that will affect value.

Here is another silver '74 SD Formula being auctioned. https://www.hagerty.com/marketplace/...89rZYwksdfEdjR

[necdb3]

Originally Posted by Baron Von Zeppelin

I think it was BLKBRD
He was real active on here for some time and then just disappeared about 10 years or so ago , it seemed like.

But I remember the 68 Ram1 car he had.
We tried to do a breakdown on the BHC card but it had so many options that neither BrianS nor I could get the math to go flush.
The BHC (PHS) and option breakdown will be listed in the Ram Air II Roll Call thread in the 67-69 Bird section on here.

Black was a Special Order on a 68 Firebird , not a standard color.

Had no idea he had passed away
He was cool

He passed away in the last 12 months. A few of his cars were sold by his brother as well as parts that he had. He had a CR 69judge, a crusty white 70 RAIV GTO that was sold (many may have seen the ads) and the 68 RA1. I think he had another car that sold before I got to see any of them.

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

His last post was in 2016
But after 2013 his posts were infrequent.
2018 was last time he checked in on here.

Here is the equipment for the Black Ram1 Bird

259 Custom Interior - Black
347 Engine - Ram Air
358 4-Spd Man - Close Ratio
361 Safe-T-Track Rear Axle
383 Radio, Pushbutton - Man Antenna - Rear
431 Seat Belts Custom
434 Tachometer - Hood Mounted
444 Rally Gauge Cluster
453 Rally II Wheels
472 Console
481 Dual Exhausts
521 Disc Brakes - Front
524 Custom Floor Shift Knob
532 Soft Ray Glass - Windshield Only
604 Rear Seat - Folding
634 Shocks - Koni Adjustable - Front & Rear
671 Lamp - Underhood
702 Spare Tire - Conventional
KM 195R x 14 White - Radial Tires
Paint Code A - Starlight Black (Special Order - Extra Charge)
Vinyl Top

I think we were having trouble finding a factual cost of the Black Paint - and it also had a Miscellaneous Equipment Charge on the BHC.
But we couldn't make the math hit flush with the Label Price.
The Label Price was higher than what we could come up with - which is a better scenario than it being lower .

For sure it was a Ram1 4spd 3.90 axle car.
Black on Black
One Helluva Car !

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

Pretty certain he verified the EUN stamp 126860 on the block
Should have VIN stamp also.

Radial tires and Koni shocks were very very scarce options on 68 Birds
Black paint - ultra rare also.
Disc brakes were even uncommon.

25-287 = Bill Meadows Pontiac - Portland Oregon

[Dennis H.]

Originally Posted by 71GP76TA

They probably thought the engine turned bezel looked cooler.. That bezel isn't even correct for a '74. If you notice... The car has 2 RTS emblems.

Cheap looking aftermarket ebay trim rings need to go.

Bird on rear spoiler shouldn't be there.

Car should have been de-personalized prior going to auction.

Nice car and doubt any of that will affect value.

Here is another silver '74 SD Formula being auctioned. https://www.hagerty.com/marketplace/...89rZYwksdfEdjR

When I owned this SD Formula over 30 years ago, the turned dash bezel was on it as well as the RTS emblems. I was the 3rd owner at the time, and I bought it from a guy I worked with who bought it from the original owner. I do not know if either one of them made the addition, but it must have been done early on in its life. The rear bird on the spoiler was not there and it had the correct trim rings on the wheels at the time I owned it. I have been in contact with the current owner, and he told me it was restored prior to him buying it.

[Cammer-6]

Is there a way to view the live auction online without a bidders pass?
EDIT
I think I found it.

https://www.mecum.com/auctions/kissi...024/live-feed/

now how to find the guesstimate as to when a lot comes up

[The Champ]

^

Saw that car yesterday. Didn't realize that a PY board member had owned it.

[65madgoat]

$110k sale on that black 1968 Ram Air I Firebird!


https://www.mecum.com/lots/1105699/1...aa_id=524441-0

[Cammer-6]

it closed at $100k but the fees werent free

[65madgoat]

Yeah 10% per side I believe. Seller walked with $90k and buyer paid $110K. Transportation costs additional.

[JacintasHot]

House wins all around.

[Cammer-6]

I was surprised at the percentaqge of no sales
wonder if its a indicator of market?

[65madgoat]

Market overall is still great. But yes lots of no reserve met auctions. We just have to come to realize a lot of these cars (like their owners) are aging out and not resonating with many of today's buyers. I think there are over 200 Pontiacs up for sale at this auction. I don't think this forum has 200 diehard Pontiac members. Ha.

[The Champ]

Originally Posted by 65madgoat

$110k sale on that black 1968 Ram Air I Firebird!


https://www.mecum.com/lots/1105699/1...aa_id=524441-0

Asking the dumb question - how/where did you find the sale price? It doesn't show in the link.

[jhein]

Originally Posted by The Champ

Asking the dumb question - how/where did you find the sale price? It doesn't show in the link.

I believe you have to be logged in to see the prices. If you are logged and still can't see them, then I don't know.

[jhein]

70 RAIII auto TA sold for 121K. It's a nice car but that seems high. Good day for the seller.

https://www.mecum.com/lots/1103283/1...tiac-trans-am/

[Cammer-6]

I thought same on price of that 70 RAIII

[tigergto]

Originally Posted by jhein

I believe you have to be logged in to see the prices. If you are logged and still can't see them, then I don't know.

Yes, you have to be a member and than are able to log in to gain access to the final price