[RicksGTO]

if you bought the reproduction RA manifolds back then, they were probably made by R.A.R.E. when they did everything here in Texas. The Pypes Cross-Flow system is the best near stock 2.5" mandrel bent system to go with RA manifolds for ground clearance and performance. For your manifolds, get the Pypes 2.5" downpipes to go with it and some of the chrome tips. The 2.5" downpipes seal up to the 2.25" RA manifolds just fine. There is some minor triming and cursing required to install the system but the hangers are stock looking fit in the stock locations

[1971455HO]

Thank you Rick. I'll get busy doing my homework now.

Now that you mention it...I think R.A.R.E. was the company. In fact I'm almost sure of it.

[1971455HO]

HellO Guys,
I still have the coil, condenser and bracket that was on my car when I got it back in 1980...but I'm not sure if it's the original or not!

I've tried to search the forum and ain't having any luck. Can anybody help me with the correct AC/Delco coil number for my 71 HO bird? I've been google-ing and anything else I could think of.

PS..Did GM use the same coils (as far as numbers go) on multi-make cars back then. Could I maybe use a Cadillac or Chevy and it have the correct type/number on it? Just a thought.

Thanks Eddie.

[SD73]

What's the part number you have?

[1971455HO]

The only identification other than the Delco Remy on top is...

410
B - R

[1971455HO]

The master parts catalog list it as...

1115238

so maybe it should have been embossed as...

238

B - R

[SD73]

To eleaborate a little more, it looks like that part number 1971455HO posted is used on a lot 60-74 Pontiac engines. It wouldn't surprise me if it crossed over into other makes as well.

[2manyT/A'S]

Looks like a real respectable T/A.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ponti...fCarsQ5fTrucks

If I was ordering one new in 72,this would be it.

[Father&Son73T/A]

Originally Posted by 2manyT/A'S

Looks like a real respectable T/A.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ponti...fCarsQ5fTrucks

If I was ordering one new in 72,this would be it.

You had to post this didn't ya?,...I drove past there today making a delivery in Tinley Park..............

Anybody want to buy our 73 and 79 TA's.....?????

[TA455HO]

Originally Posted by 2manyT/A'S

Looks like a real respectable T/A.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ponti...fCarsQ5fTrucks

If I was ordering one new in 72,this would be it.

It's a 71 according to the ad. No biggie, just wanted to mention it. Fan shroud appears to have been replaced. Looks a little high in the back end, but overall it's a fine example.

[300 H&H]

bump........................

[70RAlll]

Originally Posted by 1971455HO

The only identification other than the Delco Remy on top is...

410
B - R

"410" Delco Coils were originally installed on 1970 TA's, sometime mid year they switched to 424 coils through the end of 1971. An original 71 coil should have 424 B-R embossed on it. I am sure there are other numbers that were used for all "Pontiacs with a V-8"( P-8 is often a listing in MPC's which people mistakenly accept as ok for a TA) during these years, or possible superceded numbers like the 438 number someone else posted.. But without a doubt, 1970 coils were 410's,but 424's are dememed correct and 424 coils are the only number correct for 1971 TA's..

[70RAlll]

Originally Posted by 1971455HO

Morning Guys. Please forgive my ignorance. I have a set of reproduction manifolds I bought a little over 20 years ago now. From everything I can tell, they're spot on identical to the originals, including part #'s and all. Sorry the box is long gone and I can't remember who made them, maybe Ram Air Restorations. They don't have the extra bolt holes like some of the newer ones do. I think mine are 2 1/4" outlet. I see all these cool exhaust out there for our birds but they seem to be for systems from the headers back. I'm not going to run headers.

My two questions are; Do any of these company's make complete systems from the stock manifolds back? Do they make them to fit the 2 1/4" manifolds and then expand to 2 1/2" the rest of the way back?

I'm hoping to get a complete stainless mandrel bent exhaust with all stainless hardware that fits like a glove. No beating, banging, bending or having to mount hangers where there never were any.

Please feel free to correct me in my ignorance. I'm all ears. Just following along here with your conversation made me think you guys have already been there and knew the solution.

Thanks, Eddie

Gardner makes your complete 2 1/4 from manifolds back exact stock repo. Very good product.Their muffler is good, all parts are exact copies of originals. I can't say a bad thing about the systems I havebought from them, except maybe a little pricey... But heck... you are getting a perfect copy. Just my preference.I know a lot of guys like the Pypes 2 1/2 systems.. I like the 100% stock set up 2 1/4 myself...

[1974formula]

Sounds like many are going back to cast R/A and HO exhaust manifolds, not just Birds but the GTO guys too...Does anyone here have some round port headers they want to sell ?

Pm me if so, I may not see it here.

[HO Kenny]

Does anybody know the whereabouts of my old HO formula? It was sold to a guy in portland OR about 4 1/2 years ago. It was painted white but the original color was bronze. It had a sr engine and the original auto tranny. I was just wondering if it has surfaced yet? This thread also needed to get a bump the sd guys are way out in front!
ken

[RicksGTO]

was yours the white car with the green interior?

[2manyT/A'S]

Was it a project,driver or nice car?

MOST HO Formulas tend to be "heavily optioned".

Was yours?

[Bet Winner]

Originally Posted by 70RAlll

"410" Delco Coils were originally installed on 1970 TA's, sometime mid year they switched to 424 coils through the end of 1971. An original 71 coil should have 424 B-R embossed on it. I am sure there are other numbers that were used for all "Pontiacs with a V-8"( P-8 is often a listing in MPC's which people mistakenly accept as ok for a TA) during these years, or possible superceded numbers like the 438 number someone else posted.. But without a doubt, 1970 coils were 410's,but 424's are dememed correct and 424 coils are the only number correct for 1971 TA's..

Many/all 69 GTO's received the 410 coil so they should not be hard to find. (Ames mistakenly listed 238 as the only correct 69 GTO coil, but I convinced them that that is incorrect thru my car's original and the AMA Specifications.)

(I like 69-73 Trans Ams so I sometimes visit.)

[HO Kenny]

I think the car had a dark saddle custom interior and the original exterior was quezal gold. Other than the handling package and rally gauges I don't think it had to many options.
It was a drivable project car. I sold it on ebay for far to little when our 1st kid was born.
I found a pic of it. The gray one is my 71 455 ho the white one is the 72 and the burgundy 68 is a ram air 1 that i sold when our second kid was born. No mor kids I still have the 71
ken

[Judge273]

HO Kenny,

Nice fast cars! Love the picture with the deer!!

You should have a ebayer name if you sold car on ebay? Someone who contacted you?

Is the 71 running? More info. HO Formies are lookers...