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Old 10-15-2019, 09:32 PM
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Kind of a beater.. but a nice untouched original car.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...bird-trans-am/

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I'd say good money. Personally, I'd like a nice original 4 speed driver TA for 30k.

Market says they are 40k plus...

How the new buyer sees it? Restoration candidate or fun driver to fluff?

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Beater..LMAO..

I see a very solid original car that with an interior makeover and some detailing would make a nice driver. Everybody around here has a different opinion on what these cars are anyway. I do get tired of the insistence that every single one of them should be concours restored to the highest levels.

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Beater..LMAO..

I see a very solid original car that with an interior makeover and some detailing would make a nice driver. Everybody around here has a different opinion on what these cars are anyway. I do get tired of the insistence that every single one of them should be concours restored to the highest levels.

All my cars are drivers. Most say my SD Formula needs a paint job.

The car in question is kind of a beater with its door dings.. big dent in the fender.. busted spoiler and tail light.. ripped seats. Though I do think it is cool car.. just not 43k cool..

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Beater..LMAO..
Right? I was expecting a disaster when I opened the link.

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Very cool car, but 43K is a lot of money considering the condition of the car. I agree with others, redo the interior, fix the little things, and drive it as-is.

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Right? I was expecting a disaster when I opened the link.
Beater by 1985 standards..

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I wonder why the rearend isn’t the correct one


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Very cool car, but 43K is a lot of money considering the condition of the car. I agree with others, redo the interior, fix the little things, and drive it as-is.
I agree about the 43k. Cool call for about 25 to 28.

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well, good money or not;
That is probably the absolute best photographed car i have seen in a very long time;
I mean there were 114 pictures, including all components, all trouble areas, and anything one might think to ask about.
I'd make a wager that the ample pictures pushed this to the final price.

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Seller did a great job and got paid well for his efforts.

Admittedly am just a little surprised it went past 35k as much as it did.
43 was some good green and i didn't know that auction site had the potential to bring all the money like that.

Congrats to the new owner !
4spd AC #'s cars aren't being offered very often these days.
Most are where they will stay for a pretty good while yet.

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I will say, that this surprised me:



a 3.31:1 non-posi!?!
I thought the Trans Am always came with a posi?
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I will say, that this surprised me:







a 3.31:1 non-posi!?!

I thought the Trans Am always came with a posi?


They did. That’s why I mentioned it earlier


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/\ i wonder if it was a goof up;
iirc this was the correct gear ratio for a four speed car with a/c...
I did miss your comment, but now that you mention it, I see it.

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/\ i wonder if it was a goof up;
iirc this was the correct gear ratio for a four speed car with a/c...
I did miss your comment, but now that you mention it, I see it.


Well the rearend WAS built AFTER the assembly date of the car......


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In fact the rear is dated a WEEK AFTER the car shipped


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well, this just goes to show that I'm not the most versed on this stuff;
eg. what to look at, and where to look...
I hope to get there some day

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I only know 69’s and 70’s lol but man do I know em


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In fact the rear is dated a WEEK AFTER the car shipped


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Axle date code looks like 0623...that would be June 23rd, no?
Trim Tag is second week of July, and ship date on PHS is July 17th.

I believe it was either a mis-stamped axle (the line workers would have pulled it based on a tag on the axle that may HAVE been correct, not based on the code stamped in the tube), since seller did state it was a posi. Or maybe it was a mis-build (i.e. rolled off the line with an open 3.31), and original owner caught it the first time he lit the tires up, and had the dealer fix it.

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Axle date code looks like 0623...that would be June 23rd, no?
Trim Tag is second week of July, and ship date on PHS is July 17th.

I believe it was either a mis-stamped axle (the line workers would have pulled it based on a tag on the axle that may HAVE been correct, not based on the code stamped in the tube), since seller did state it was a posi. Or maybe it was a mis-build (i.e. rolled off the line with an open 3.31), and original owner caught it the first time he lit the tires up, and had the dealer fix it.


Got me, I was thinking G not 6 for some reason


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