[GTOGEORGE]

Originally Posted by opeliac

George, what is the deal on the 2000 series head studs that you are talking about?

I found me a way to get a set of special ARP2000 1/2” head studs that would work on my Hp heads.



GTO George

[GTOGEORGE]

Picture of the ARP2000 head stud



GTO George

[Sirrotica]

George, are these the fasteners that can be affected from the oils on your hands? Some ARP fasteners you need to wear gloves when handling them.

[Dragncar]

Originally Posted by Sirrotica

George, are these the fasteners that can be affected from the oils on your hands? Some ARP fasteners you need to wear gloves when handling them.

You do not have to use gloves with ARP 2000 rods bolts on Molnar rods.
But the 700$ rod bolts for Crower billet rods require gloves. Not sure what the name/number those 700$ bolts are.

[PAUL K]

The L-19 bolts are the ones your supposed to use gloves with. Some builders brush ARP lube on their fingers instead.

[PAUL K]

Originally Posted by GTOGEORGE

Picture of the ARP2000 head stud



GTO George

Just curious George why don't you use the high quality studs your pals at KRE sell?

[GTOGEORGE]

Originally Posted by PAUL K

Just curious George why don't you use the high quality studs your pals at KRE sell?

I didn’t know they had any, as far as I know they use ( at best) a 8740 9/16” stud.
Let me tell ya this ARP2000 from outfront mototsports are way better then ARP8740 studs!


GTO George

[slowbird]

Originally Posted by GTOGEORGE

I didn’t know they had any, as far as I know they use ( at best) a 8740 9/16” stud.
Let me tell ya this ARP2000 from outfront mototsports are way better then ARP8740 studs!

GTO George

Why doesn't KRE offer them as an upgrade option?

[mgarblik]

Originally Posted by opeliac

I bought them from Bob and Frank...I had planned on having Butler do the machine work, but when I called today, the guy on the phone said they've never done any...So, I called Tony earlier, and I think i'm gonna run it up to BES next week...

I would think BES could cut the groove with their Rottler F65 machine or similar. If you like to do everything yourself, I have a BHJ O-ring cutting tool and a Pontiac plate I could possibly send you with a deposit and you can cut them yourself. This is a hand operated tool, but accurate if your careful. +-.001". You would need to buy the correct size carbide insert to match the ring. But that's not expensive, Like $30-35.00. Let me know if you want to try that.

http://www.bhjproducts.com/bhj_conte...ooling/org.php

[opeliac]

Originally Posted by slowbird

Why doesn't KRE offer them as an upgrade option?

I'm thinking the same thing for Butler...It seems like they would be a great upgrade option.

[opeliac]

Originally Posted by mgarblik

I would think BES could cut the groove with their Rottler F65 machine or similar. If you like to do everything yourself, I have a BHJ O-ring cutting tool and a Pontiac plate I could possibly send you with a deposit and you can cut them yourself. This is a hand operated tool, but accurate if your careful. +-.001". You would need to buy the correct size carbide insert to match the ring. But that's not expensive, Like $30-35.00. Let me know if you want to try that.

http://www.bhjproducts.com/bhj_conte...ooling/org.php

Dang, thanks for the offer...I've never used one of those, but I was reading about others that do...I may take you up on that offer...

I am also wondering why they dont put any sort of receiver groove in the head...Tom V explained the basics of the rings, and how they work, but it just seems like they'd be even better with a few thou receiver groove.

[73 TRANSAM]

I have one of those on my turbo setup IA2. The ring will cut its own groove to the head. Thats how it seals the bore. So when you remove the heads, u need to get it milled .005 to make it flat again.

[opeliac]

Originally Posted by 73 TRANSAM

I have one of those on my turbo setup IA2. The ring will cut its own groove to the head. Thats how it seals the bore. So when you remove the heads, u need to get it milled .005 to make it flat again.

So yours is dry decked too? How much boost have you made?

[73 TRANSAM]

Dry deck and reverse cool. I only had it to 15 psi on the dyno.

[opeliac]

Originally Posted by 73 TRANSAM

Dry deck and reverse cool. I only had it to 15 psi on the dyno.

How did you do the reverse cool?

[73 TRANSAM]

I got a billet timing cover that I bought from a PY member and used a SBC nascar water pump and reverse cooled it. Not sure if it was actually better but I did it anyways.

[cfmcnc]

Just a note.When you eliminate the head gasket thickness you have to make an adjustment in the piston to head clearance.

[PAUL K]

Originally Posted by GTOGEORGE

I didn’t know they had any, as far as I know they use ( at best) a 8740 9/16” stud.
Let me tell ya this ARP2000 from outfront mototsports are way better then ARP8740 studs!


GTO George

Originally Posted by slowbird

Why doesn't KRE offer them as an upgrade option?

Just when George almost had me convinced KRE is as great as he claims.

[Jack Gifford]

Originally Posted by 73 TRANSAM

... The ring will cut its own groove to the head...

Really? Wouldn't there be a number of combustion chamber shapes in which that could not work? In my ignorance, I assumed that a matching groove was cut in the head.

[73 TRANSAM]

Marty's ring, will cut into the head on its own. That is how it seals as the rings are not flat on one side. It is raised on the outer wall of the rings and that is responsible for sealing.