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Old 10-15-2020, 10:12 AM
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I guess I dont really see a problem personally. Old cars have inconveniences.. Do I expect my 50 year old car to be as easy as my modern vehicle to fill up with gas? Nope... Is my car as comfortable as a new car? NOPE... Does it handle as well? NOPE?

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But I don't have to pull to the side of the road to find the correct portion of the dash screen to push to turn on the heater! Or change stations on the radio!

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But I don't have to pull to the side of the road to find the correct portion of the dash screen to push to turn on the heater! Or change stations on the radio!

Jon.

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My truck has the touch screen with all the controls built into it, depending on your ability to navigate the different layers. It's really not that difficult, but takes a bit of lite concentration, concentration probably better used in the actual driving process. The truck also has all the same functions for control of the various systems in a more "old school" form....buttons...knobs...switches etc.

Lets see, punch around on a touch screen getting to a place where I can turn down the volume or drop the temp a few degrees OR reach up and ,pretty much without taking my eyes off the road, rotate a knob or push a button to accomplish the same task......I'm going "old school" every time.........

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My problem is, bending down that low to fill the tank, my back isn’t as strong as it used to be, with degenerating discs. My other problem is the nozzle gets sucked onto the filler and being that low it’s a PITA to break the suction.

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Honest to goodness!
My truck has the touch screen with all the controls built into it, depending on your ability to navigate the different layers. It's really not that difficult, but takes a bit of lite concentration, concentration probably better used in the actual driving process. The truck also has all the same functions for control of the various systems in a more "old school" form....buttons...knobs...switches etc.

Lets see, punch around on a touch screen getting to a place where I can turn down the volume or drop the temp a few degrees OR reach up and ,pretty much without taking my eyes off the road, rotate a knob or push a button to accomplish the same task......I'm going "old school" every time.........
A message comes up every once in a while in my wife’s Suburban’s touch screen while driving. It says basically that it’s dangerous to look at the screen while driving. THEN you have to push a button on the touch screen to acknowledge the message to cancel it out! All while driving if coarse.

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Old 10-16-2020, 01:08 PM
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This is a super first world problems complaint, but putting gas in both my 67 and 64 sucks.

IDK if modern gas pumps are different, Im not as old as some of you guys. If you hold the pump down at full blast like normal, it backfills into the tube pretty quickly and shuts off the pump. It will also splash you if you are standing there. So rather than being able to put the lock on it and wait it out, I have to sit there and babysit the thing. Varying pressure when I hear it filling the tube. To get it full in either car I have to hold the pump and just about 20% throttle and let it creep up.

Anyone ever retrofit a modern style splash guard into a classic car fuel filler? I would certainly be willing to put in the work to swap one if there was one on the market.
I have the exact same problem with my 69 GTO, glad to hear it's not just me.

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Old 10-16-2020, 01:45 PM
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This is a super first world problems complaint, but putting gas in both my 67 and 64 sucks.

IDK if modern gas pumps are different, Im not as old as some of you guys. If you hold the pump down at full blast like normal, it backfills into the tube pretty quickly and shuts off the pump. It will also splash you if you are standing there. So rather than being able to put the lock on it and wait it out, I have to sit there and babysit the thing. Varying pressure when I hear it filling the tube. To get it full in either car I have to hold the pump and just about 20% throttle and let it creep up.

Anyone ever retrofit a modern style splash guard into a classic car fuel filler? I would certainly be willing to put in the work to swap one if there was one on the market.
We daily drive our classics so I know exactly what you are talking about.

Over the years I've basically resorted to barely sticking the nozzle in, and lightly pulling the trigger maybe 20% and just slowly fill the tanks. It's just something I've gotten used to doing and is second nature.

I've even gotten to the point of knowing which stations have better pumps and which pump number at those stations have less sensitive nozzles, because they aren't all created equal it seems. I'm filling 2-3 classics up every week that we daily drive, sometimes more if I get something out that's been sitting a while.

A couple of the cars have filler necks that shoot straight out the back so filling them up at full throttle is impossible anyway, you'll never fail at splashing a gallon of fuel all over the car and on the ground trying that no matter how fast the nozzle clicks off.
I've even been to a couple of stations (Costco comes to mind) where they won't even let me fill the car. Soon as I start pumping slow they come out and shut the pump off, stating they don't allow top offs, lol. They can't seem to understand I'm pumping slow to keep from spilling because you can't pump full blast with the nozzle locked Can't fix stupid though.

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We did the body on this 69 Camaro for a guy with serious back problems. He could not bend to reach the stock filler location behind the license plate. Since we were all ready replacing the trunk floor and rear body panel, I ordered '68 Camaro pieces that we modified to fit to his '69 rear body panel. That included a '68 floor, gas tank, gas neck and rear panel to cut up.
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I had no problem , except for splash-back when full, when filling my 1st 66 GTO or the 66 Tempest Custom, and for a short time with the 79 Formula Firebird (which wasn't as low as the 66 GTO and Tempest) I had. The filler neck was pretty well centered in the opening for both cars. Not so with the 66 GTO I have now. It seems the gas tank in this one is a replacement. The filler neck opening sits higher in the opening so I have to twist the gas nozzle to the side so it doesn't kick off and stop the flow of gas into the tank. Replacement gas tanks are not always correct for the filler neck.... as we've all found out with many other replacement parts.

You do realize that the gas nozzles are bigger now than back before they were changed for the regular non leaded gas pumps. That happened after I had bought my 79 Formula Firebird. With that car I had to pop out the metal ring that made the filler neck bigger to get the larger nozzle in the neck. As most have probably done already.

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I think you meant to say the gas nozzles are smaller now. The old leaded nozzles were larger, and the unleaded cars coming out at the time had the filler necks with a reduced hole so that the larger leaded nozzles couldn't be used in the unleaded car.

It was very common to knock those out for those that wanted to run leaded fuels in their unleaded cars, when it was still available.

These days all nozzles are the same size now since everything is unleaded.

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You're right FJ. Larger now is correct.

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A small fraction of the cost of another back surgery.

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Talk about first world problems.


On my T/A I just select the grade, set the trigger hold down and wait until it's full. Usually I keep my knee against it so it doesn't come out, but that's it.

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This is a super first world problems complaint, but putting gas in both my 67 and 64 sucks.

IDK if modern gas pumps are different, Im not as old as some of you guys. If you hold the pump down at full blast like normal, it backfills into the tube pretty quickly and shuts off the pump. It will also splash you if you are standing there. So rather than being able to put the lock on it and wait it out, I have to sit there and babysit the thing. Varying pressure when I hear it filling the tube. To get it full in either car I have to hold the pump and just about 20% throttle and let it creep up.

Anyone ever retrofit a modern style splash guard into a classic car fuel filler? I would certainly be willing to put in the work to swap one if there was one on the market.
I have same issue with my 72 pontiac full size. I just fill at the first click on the handle and no issues. If I try to fill at full force it shuts off.

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I think you meant to say the gas nozzles are smaller now. The old leaded nozzles were larger, and the unleaded cars coming out at the time had the filler necks with a reduced hole so that the larger leaded nozzles couldn't be used in the unleaded car.

It was very common to knock those out for those that wanted to run leaded fuels in their unleaded cars, when it was still available.

These days all nozzles are the same size now since everything is unleaded.
Not diesel. They still use the big nozzels at many locations.

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Not diesel. They still use the big nozzels at many locations.
Yeah different ball game. Us diesel owners never had to deal with trying to put leaded fuel in unleaded cars. Plus I would assume the bigger nozzle assembly moves more volume and fills up those 60-80 gallon tanks faster, lol.

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Same issue with my 72....

Pump in the first few gallons at normal speed, splash back - shut off, then slow pump to possibly filled up...

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I have had wagons f body’s a body’s olds, Buick and Pontiac and a 70 Chevelle never had a problem with filling any of them as said before maybe splash if you let it fill to auto kick off.

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