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Old 10-24-2020, 07:07 PM
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Hi, would anyone have a current Comp hyd roller lifter they could measure seat height on. I assume that would mean from the bottom of the roller to the pushrod pocket.

The number Comp lists is 2.49 inches. From the best I can measure that is almost .250 taller than my really old 857’s.

I was hoping to get by with the pushrods I have but it doesn’t look like that’s going to work.

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Old 10-25-2020, 11:38 AM
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Comp uses different vendors so the seat height probably depends who they sourced them from.
To accurately measure seat height you’d need a mic with a ball on one end that matched the end of the pushrod you’re using.

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Old 10-25-2020, 12:18 PM
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Comp uses different vendors so the seat height probably depends who they sourced them from.

To accurately measure seat height you’d need a mic with a ball on one end that matched the end of the pushrod you’re using.


Yes, I can borrow a mic Monday to get a more accurate measurement.
How close do you think they would need to be, compared to what I have now?
Push rods usually come in .050 increments, I think.
If I can find lifters within .050 of the original Comps, would that be “close enough” you think?
This is in a pretty mild driver.

ETA, I am replacing all the lifters.

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Old 10-25-2020, 05:36 PM
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.050 should be ok, you could try different preload to fine tune it if you had to.
Let us know what you find out after you get the measurements

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517 MR-1,10.8 CR,SD 350CFM E's,QFT 950/Northwind,246/252 HR,9.5” 4000 stall,3.42's
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I will. I’m gonna see if I can get measurements from Butler for the other brands they sell. I can always buy push rods, just trying to keep my budget for other things I’ve got going on.

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Old 10-26-2020, 07:35 PM
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.050 should be ok, you could try different preload to fine tune it if you had to.

Let us know what you find out after you get the measurements


Well Butler doesn’t answer tech questions on the phone at this time. I had emailed them my questions Friday. I’ll post their reply when I get it.
My 857’s measured 2.195 as best we could get it. Comp lists 2.49 so .030 difference. Butler lists HyLift Johnson as 2.71 seat height.

In searching through the many threads on hyd rollers, I saw Dave Bisschop posted they were with in .010 new to old Comps.

I guess the thing to do is just order the Comps & see how close they are.

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Old 10-26-2020, 07:49 PM
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The pushrods for my Comp Cams roller 400 from this year are .100 longer than what I used for the the exact same engine two years ago. I ASS-U-ME the lifters are .100 shorter than they used to be. Not necessarily fact, just an assumption.

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Default Hyd roller lifter height?

Thanks man. I’m just gonna order some & compare. Probably end up needing different pushrods whatever I do.

How long were your old pushrods, if you remember?

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Old 10-28-2020, 05:25 AM
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Well Butler doesn’t answer tech questions on the phone at this time. I had emailed them my questions Friday. I’ll post their reply when I get it.
My 857’s measured 2.195 as best we could get it. Comp lists 2.49 so .030 difference. Butler lists HyLift Johnson as 2.71 seat height.

In searching through the many threads on hyd rollers, I saw Dave Bisschop posted they were with in .010 new to old Comps.

I guess the thing to do is just order the Comps & see how close they are.

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That’s .295” difference, quite a lot.

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13.86 @ 100
Old combo:
462 10.75 CR,,SD 330CFM Round Port E's,Old Faithful cam,Jim Hand Continental,3.42's.
1968 Pontiac GTO : 11.114 @ 120.130 MPH

New combo:
517 MR-1,10.8 CR,SD 350CFM E's,QFT 950/Northwind,246/252 HR,9.5” 4000 stall,3.42's
636HP/654TQ
1.452 10.603 @ 125.09
http://www.dragtimes.com/Pontiac-GTO...lip-31594.html
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Old 10-28-2020, 07:49 AM
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That’s .295” difference, quite a lot.


Yeah, that’s part of the reason I was asking questions. I know that no aftermarket stuff is necessarily built to the same specs.

.295 between new lifters for the same app seemed like a lot to me and almost .500 difference between my old ones and the Hi Lift Johnson’s.

I’d like to get a set of both and compare them but can’t get HLJ’s right now.

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