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07-20-2009, 01:21 PM
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1974 4-speed A/C on eBay
Ultra rare '74 SD T/A 4-speed with A/C on ebay starting at $81k...I'm sure they didn't make many 4-speeds with air!!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ponti...fCarsQ5fTrucks
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07-20-2009, 01:41 PM
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$81k for a 74 400 4sp is kinda high, considering the 74 SD's aren't getting that. Especially with the way car prices have been falling lately.
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07-20-2009, 05:36 PM
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07-20-2009, 05:39 PM
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07-20-2009, 05:47 PM
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07-21-2009, 10:16 AM
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Hmmm, a sd 4 speed with air ? nobody said it was going to be easy!
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07-21-2009, 10:30 AM
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This looks like the very same car we look over at Volo a couple of years ago (VIN 116260 – same interior combo and options). We had a number of questions about the car - it was built in November of 1973, well before any of the documented 4-speeds (All known 4-speeds were built after March 1974 due to issues with certification and/or supply of the BW transmissions). It also had a Trans from a 1976 Corvette as I recall. Nice car but ask a lot of questions before buying...
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Dick Winkles 1970 RAIV GTO 4-speed 1974 Original owner Z-28 4-speed 2008 SRT10 Viper Very Orange (was SD TA!) 2015 Challenger Hellcat 6spd (was SD TA!) |
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07-21-2009, 11:05 AM
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We decided that this car was either an automatic - A/C car that was converted to manual or it was a 400 4 speed that was updated with an SD engine. There is no way to prove it unless you have the original build sheet. Trans choice was a no charge option and therefore does not show up on the window sticker or dealer invoice from PHS.
As rwinkles stated.........ask a lot of questions before buying. Me...I don't buy it for a minute. It is an engine swap car!
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07-21-2009, 03:00 PM
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Oh yeah, that car had many things that drew red flags. Proceed with caution !
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07-21-2009, 04:23 PM
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Do you guys that saw the car remember what the VIN showed for the engine?
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07-21-2009, 05:44 PM
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Steve:
It was difficult to see and was painted over therefore making it unreadable. I will tell you that it had a BW trans from a 76 Corvette. rwinkles took a picture of the trans and the VIN was 16SXXXXXX. The casting code was also incorrect for a T/A. Another red flag. It did have a W8 coded block but that could have been from a wrecked SD or may have been restamped. Hard to tell.
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07-21-2009, 06:53 PM
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Dick Winkles 1970 RAIV GTO 4-speed 1974 Original owner Z-28 4-speed 2008 SRT10 Viper Very Orange (was SD TA!) 2015 Challenger Hellcat 6spd (was SD TA!) |
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07-22-2009, 08:39 AM
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I remember seeing the car advertised at Volo and called them but got no straight answer. I thought it might have been an actual 4 spd SD that someone added AC to although a good chance that one or both of the firewall VINs were lost to metal removal for the air box installation. As Dick said though, a little early for a 4spd car.
I was taken by the interior. I've seen a number of cars with the no charge option of contrasting seats but never black int with red seats. Has to be pretty rare-if it even was built that way. |
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07-22-2009, 09:52 PM
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That SD engine I sold, was out of a Buc Red TA with that interior.
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07-24-2009, 09:17 AM
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John, I don't think I asked when I bought it, did you ever get the PHS for the car that engine came from? If so I'd buy it from you.
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07-24-2009, 08:16 PM
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I don't think so.
It was a long time before PHS when I had it. I'll look and see to make sure, though.
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