[Alvin]

Originally Posted by Grand73Am

1 - I wonder if original headliners had foam? I have a low mileage 79 and there doesn't seem to be any foam under the headliner material. Just seems to be the perforated vinyl directly on the board.

2 - I think the trick to keeping the adhesive from coming through the perforation is after spraying the back of the material and the board, let the adhesive dry. Then stick them together. The adhesive is supposed to work that way.

1 - The last time I reworked one of these was on the original in my 1st '78 T/A back in the '80s. All had cardboard base, w grey foam layer and then non-cloth (vinyl?) perforated headliner material. This was back when you could still purchase an complete correct color match, mounted on backer (cardboard) OEM from GM. I remember seeing those huge ship boxes that contained the 1 piece headliners. IIRC the shipping costs $ was high and due to size shipped truck freight only.

2 - I recall removing the vinyl, and then the remaining foam from the cardboard. I used a 3M adhesive spray can specific to the job (gorilla snot yellow) that indeed instructed to "light spray" both mating surfaces and allow to dry until "tacky" and then join them together.

I recall folding the headliner vinyl in 1/2 (front to back) and spraying and installing 1/2 @ a time...clamping the edges to prevent slippage...

[ladytata]

Yes, that is the way to do it, expect if you use foam, joann fabric$22, don't clamp it or use your fingers to smooth it out. Use your palm lighty or you will have finger dents in your headliner. And you want it to be warm out.

[burd]

Originally Posted by pggto

I just picked up a 80 TA, and it needs a headliner, I was looking at the Parts Place replace headliners on ebay, my color code is 62B, Camel Cloth, and they only list it as Tan. Does anyone know if the color is correct and if these fit correctly? Thanks

When I did my 78 with Camel no one had the color, Year one was real close, it's a shade off and looks correct because nothing matched from the factory, you see cars at that silly firebird show in that Ohio parking lot where the interiors looked they were dipped in a large vat, all matching, but in 80 the camel is a lighter shade as well, I have some original pcs to prove it, it's diff lifter than the 1978. And you can't spay a headliner with out it looking like poo poo. All the little hole would have over spray in it. I still haven't seen any head liners close, that goes for package trays too, I recently bought an nOS camel package tray from the Trans Am Reaper, can't wait to put it in.

[Alvin]

Originally Posted by ladytata

Yes, that is the way to do it, expect if you use foam, joann fabric$22, don't clamp it or use your fingers to smooth it out. Use your palm lighty or you will have finger dents in your headliner. And you want it to be warm out.

Exactly. It's those pesky details to keep it from "looking like poo-poo" eh?

[rock]

Just installed ames camel tan headliner on my original board and the colour is near perfect

[68ragtop]

Originally Posted by rock

Just installed ames camel tan headliner on my original board and the colour is near perfect

Would you be interested in posting a few detail pictures of this? Really curious as I haven't seen one yet.

Thanks, 68RT

[rock]

Will try to post some in the near future

[Alvin]

Originally Posted by rock

Just installed ames camel tan headliner on my original board and the colour is near perfect

For purpose and theme of this OP: Was it same as factory perforated vinyl material? Reason for the Q - That's what we have on our '79 Y84 w Camel gut... Thx.

[AMES-TECH]

We have samples of our headliner material along with the vinyl we offer, If interested just call us at 1-800-421-2637 we do not charge for the samples to be sent out.

[rock]

It's vinyl with perforations and foam backing

[burd]

I'd like to see the samples, no one had the rite Camel when I did mine, I had samples from everyone, same on the Pkg trays, I recently bought a nOS camel pkg tray off of the Trans Am Reaper. now i can throw the crappy repop out.

[burd]

Here it is GM baby, and he had two Mint Front seat belts in Camel, Reaper is the Man!!!

[burd]

The repop Camel mats dont match either, they are crap, Heres a nOS Set i found, still in the Box. Bob, I might be able to get a set for you from the same Guy, still working on it

[burd]

I found the pic I was looking for, heres a sample of my orig Headliner, and the material from Year One, its a shade off, like everything else from the Factory, lol, I like the way it looks in the car,

[Alvin]

Originally Posted by rock

It's vinyl with perforations and foam backing

Yep, sounds same as ours OEM...

[77 TRASHCAN]

Can a complete headliner be purchased? board and material?

Not sure I still have my original board...my original sure didn't last long.

[rock]

Originally Posted by burd

The repop Camel mats dont match either, they are crap, Heres a nOS Set i found, still in the Box. Bob, I might be able to get a set for you from the same Guy, still working on it

your right, the repo mats are a lighter shade of camel. Better than nothing.

I also order two repo arm rests for the T/A and I was sent a set for a corvette, I'm sending them back. Totally different design and no mention of the arm rest being a corvette item.

[rock]

Originally Posted by burd

I found the pic I was looking for, heres a sample of my orig Headliner, and the material from Year One, its a shade off, like everything else from the Factory, lol, I like the way it looks in the car,

looks like the one I ordered

[Grand73Am]

Which one looks like what you got?

[rock]

Originally Posted by Grand73Am

Which one looks like what you got?

Looks like the darker one

I was thirteen when this car was new, so a shade off isn't going to kill me.

It does look good in the car with the camel trim surround

The rug colour is also a shade off

I should have bought a blk on blk car