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Old 04-08-2020, 09:48 AM
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Default Car cribbing? Stationary jacks? 2x4 cubes? Wood stands?

Hello all, lately upon bopping around the internet and what are these things people are using/making to support their vehicle? I've mainly seen them kinda down south. They are 2x4's stacked opposite of each other, kinda like that Jenga game. I was unable to find a picture close up of one and searching those terms didn't seem to get what I was looking for. Is it just as simple as cutting some 2x4's in like 16" lengths , evenly spacing them, screwing it together with 2 1/2" drywall screws? Then maybe the last two don't put the 2x4 in the middle to create a cup to hold the wheel? I don't use cinder blocks, the last 15 years or so I've been using chunks of 12x6x16" long laminated beams picked up from job sites. They look pretty good, especially if I can get another 3 or 4" out of them and still be safe. Using 2x4's is typically something I wouldn't think of when supporting a car. Any thoughts, plans, better designs, etc. Thank you!

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Old 04-08-2020, 10:34 AM
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That's about it, They can get a bit bulky depending on how tall you go.
But they are very strong.
I made some last year, out of pressure-treated 2x4 and prefilled for screws so as not to cause any splitting.
Screws allow you to raise or lower as needed.


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Old 04-08-2020, 12:54 PM
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Very interesting .... just last night I spent a couple of hours in the shop building cribs out of some spare structural steel I had lying around. Will post photos later. Built mine for a 10" rise .... they are somewhere between a jack stand and a crib. Just high enough to get under for an oil change. I get tired of looking for places to put a jack stand that won't mar the finish on the frame.

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Old 04-08-2020, 04:22 PM
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Here is what I put together last night. Luckily my floor jack raises the vehicle just high enough to get on the stands. Basically just oversized, fixed height jack stands with a saddle for the tire. Will work nice on other projects too, supporting a rear end, tractor work, getting something big off the floor for welding.

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Hmmmm, pretty nice datway. Is it really that cold that you still need the heater? Must be cold up there. Just looking to kill some time and make a set. I don't have any steel laying around so I'll screw some 2x4's together i guess.

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Old 04-08-2020, 10:15 PM
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Still chilly enough that I need the little heater. 30's at night.

The wood looks a bit more stable than mine.

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right now I have 2x10's 2feet long stacked about 8inches high. I have also used old rally rims flat of course and set the tires on them. wish I hadn't thrown them away LOL

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Before I got a lift, I used to use those steel ramps as jackstands: jack the car up, place tire on jackstand.

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About $40 in wood. Best thing ever. So tired of creeping and hitting jack stand after jack stand. They were always in the way. Especially when I have no lift to do exhaust work.

Now I can also set drive line angles, tighten suspension and just about all those other things that would normally wait for the car to be back on the ground.

Took me some time to be comfortable, but they are super strong. The metals ones in a previous post are nice, but wood is easier and cheaper to work for me.



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Built these with 2"x4"s and 16 penny nails( driven in at a slight angle so nail points not exposed) and used for both my 73 Trans Am and my 71 GTO. Work great, easy to stack and very safe. Got the idea from a PY member in Texas whose Trans Am had been in a Hemmings Muscle Car article.
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I made mine by screwing together 2 X lumber on edge. Short one uses a couple of 4 x 4's.
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Dataway, I’d be concerned using yours on front wheels. I’m quite sure that the fronts move in and out as the suspension extends and compresses, and that might be enough to tip them over or slide a tire off. Maybe it’s nothing, but I think they could be a little beefed up.

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Might need a tad more base width ... but the wheels stay fairly vertical through the suspension travel. So far the chassis just has the engine and trans in it, but they didn't move at all dropping if off the floor jack on to the stand so far. Weight wise they would support probably 6000 lbs each ... but yeah you could rock the car off of them if you want to.

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Hells yeah fellas!!! I really like using my lam beam blocks, I guess I could screw a 2x4 on the front and back but they would be heavy. So I'm gonna make some this weekend, maybe tomorrow. Thank you for the pics!!

But what are they actually called???? TIRE CRIBS???

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I would call the 2 x 4 tire cribbing, same principle used in lifting buildings. If done correct you could stack a car as high as you wanted.
Dataway you mentioned the base already, and added my first thought when I saw them.
73 lemans, yours look a bit too narrow also for my liking. Im sure they work great for you but if I were to build some I def. would have a wider footprint.
I am nowhere near a structural engineer but I have built and torn down enough stuff in 40+ yrs of construction to know what works and what doesn't.

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TAKerry .. yep, figure I might just run a square base around the whole thing, would add another 3" in width and length.

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73LeMans, what is your procedure and how do you lift your car on and off those
" grand " stands like that?....looks very impressive!!

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We ship out die cast presses on cribbing this way. The guys that build these per machine call it flower boxing. This is a smaller press but as you can see they will hold a lot of weight when done correctly. They will add lateral strapping because of the stop and go or motion while on a truck or ship. This press is approximately 35,000 lbs.
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Just make sure top 2x lumber carrying weight does not have knots esp large in center.

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