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Old 06-08-2024, 12:31 AM
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Default 70 LeMans Valance - Many Questions

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My front valance was thrown on with random fasteners when I got the car. I'm close to getting the valance straightened and primed so I can get the turn signals working.

I need to order fasteners and am VERY confused by the assembly drawings.

Please clarify:

1. Is the baffle shown on this drawing needed?
Drwg says "With AC & HD Cooling". My car had AC but if it had the baffle, it's long gone... what is HD Cooling and is the baffle used with AC or HD Cooling or only with both?
2. How is the valance attached without the baffle?
It seems weird the valance would bolt to either the radiator support or the baffle. I'm probably mis-interpreting the drawing but it looks like the baffle shifts the valance attach location forward ??? I'm confused...
3. There are some fasteners AMK doesn't cross-reference. What are the dimensions and where can I get them?
Item 22. 9431671 (clip nut for the bumper)
Item 33. 9428689 (clip nut for the baffle, which I hope I don't need)





4. In this next drawing, what is a "FRT IMPACT BAR"?

5. Same issue with AMK on some fasteners. What are the dimensions and where can I get them?
Item 13. PN Illegible ?? (screw & washer assy)
Item 15. 9525045 (screw attaching housing)
Item 16. 9431671 (clip nut on bumper)
6. The screws for the turn signal lenses are not shown. What are they and where can I get them?




Thanks for any help, photos, clarification if you got this far!

And if you want to sell the lens housings, let me know!

Mike
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Old 06-08-2024, 11:20 PM
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Is the 70 baffle the same part as used on 71-72?

If so, these threads tell me they are plastic and so scarce as to be unobtainable at any price:

https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com...errerid=160974

https://forums.maxperformanceinc.com...errerid=160974

And this picture of a 71/72 baffle from one of those threads tells me I can mount the valance without the baffle... but I'm just guessing for 1970...

Anyone willing to share a photo like this of a 1970 Lemans front valance attached to the radiator support WITHOUT a baffle?



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Here's a pic from a while back when I still had the engine out. The baffle is off. My '70 was originally an a/c car. The baffle came off in pieces. The other photos are with the addition of the '70 Judge air dam from Ames. It was an experiment, didn't mount in the same holes. Either way, with or without the baffle or air dam, the valance remained in place.
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This was my original 1970 baffle pieced together. The number on it is 478419.
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Here's a pic from a while back when I still had the engine out. The baffle is off. My '70 was originally an a/c car. The baffle came off in pieces. The other photos are with the addition of the '70 Judge air dam from Ames. It was an experiment, didn't mount in the same holes. Either way, with or without the baffle or air dam, the valance remained in place.
Thank you!

That's quite a gap between the valance and the radiator support. But I think that's consistent with the drawing. So maybe the entire lower edge of the valance is unsupported? Seems odd but that's why I'm asking!

Any that's a NICE bumper!

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This was my original 1970 baffle pieced together. The number on it is 478419.
Thanks for this too!

Clearly it is plastic and looks similar to the 71-72 design in the other threads.
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Seems like none of these could survive if the plastic gets brittle.

Which begs the question of the value of the baffle.. if nobody has them now and AC and cooling still work, what was the point? I assume the baffle was there to force more airflow through the AC condenser, right?

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