[sub4600]

I bought a '69 GTO convertible project back in April and put it up for sale locally here this week, because I have three other ones I'm finishing. It is a total restoration project car, but a local guy who belongs to a pontiac chapter here said I should get the PHS docs on this, because he felt it might be a Judge! the more I looked, the more it looked that way. It has ps,pb (disc), air conditioning, power antenna, but is missing the original hide-aways and hood scoops, but has two holes in the trunk that look like were a spoiler would go. Car has been stripped in the interior, that was antique gold from the data plate and midnight green exterior which still shows on the hood and driver door (rest is primer). Has a non original Pontiac 350 engine from '71, but still has the turbo 400 auto trans on the floor. Faxing PHS on Monday and if it comes up a Judge, what sort of price should I ask for this? Or should I even sell it then, it needs pretty much everything and the guy who had it before me was a bondo butcher...vin is 242679B170960...also noticed today a rubber bushing on the fire wall near the wire harness that looks like it used to have some sort of a cable that came through it, could that be the Ram Air cable?? Any advice is appreciated, maybe I have a diamond in the real rough but doubt it!

[sub4600]

I bought a '69 GTO convertible project back in April and put it up for sale locally here this week, because I have three other ones I'm finishing. It is a total restoration project car, but a local guy who belongs to a pontiac chapter here said I should get the PHS docs on this, because he felt it might be a Judge! the more I looked, the more it looked that way. It has ps,pb (disc), air conditioning, power antenna, but is missing the original hide-aways and hood scoops, but has two holes in the trunk that look like were a spoiler would go. Car has been stripped in the interior, that was antique gold from the data plate and midnight green exterior which still shows on the hood and driver door (rest is primer). Has a non original Pontiac 350 engine from '71, but still has the turbo 400 auto trans on the floor. Faxing PHS on Monday and if it comes up a Judge, what sort of price should I ask for this? Or should I even sell it then, it needs pretty much everything and the guy who had it before me was a bondo butcher...vin is 242679B170960...also noticed today a rubber bushing on the fire wall near the wire harness that looks like it used to have some sort of a cable that came through it, could that be the Ram Air cable?? Any advice is appreciated, maybe I have a diamond in the real rough but doubt it!

[PonchoV8]

The RA cable ran thru the firewall beside the windshield motor. There's a picture in this forum with a couple of pictures. Here's one of them. ONly way to tell is wiht the PHS. Price would be around $5000 for a rolling chassis I'm guessing.

[taximan]

I've seen total resto 69 Judges go from $5000 to $7,000.

If it is original tranny, probably closer to $7,000.

[sub4600]

Thanks, 5000.00 even if this a convertible, auto with air, I could only find info that 14 were made?

[smrace]

Where did you find that only 14 where made?
I thought there were only 29 auto conv, Judges made.

Steve

[Judge Man]

There were 29 Judge verts made in 69 with the auto trans.Maybe he means out of the 29 there were 14 with AC????

[PonchoV8]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by gto_buyer:
Thanks, 5000.00 even if this a convertible, auto with air? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Could be more. I'd say that's about the bottom this year. Hardtops for just a shell start about 1500-1800 on ebay this year. I'd count on it being a standard convert, but if it's a ram air car, it's still a good start. I'd guess a true RA car would add about 25-35% to the value of a convert. Unlikely that it's a Judge, because of the obvious--that's where the big increase comes in though.

[SpartanMSU]

The number 14 most likely comes from the number of RAIV ragtops that were built in 1970.

[CDN2PLS2]

There were 14 RA4 GTO convertibles built with automatics in '69.

[SpartanMSU]

OUCH!

Coming back to this thread, I've never seen a post that was so different from what I meant. I definitely meant auto RAIV ragtops from 1969. I believe 45 is the number for sticks, of which 40 were standard GTOs.

[RAIVJUDGE]

I noticed you mentioned power antenna. No Judges had power antennas because the spoiler would whack it when the antenna was up. Unless it was dealer or owner installed. If it turns out to be a Ram Air GTO convert that is still a very rare find. Definetly worth the $45 bucks for fax back PHS service.

[Geeto Tiger]

If it is a real Judge Conv. then a rolling chassis could go for 5K-10K. can you post some pics of it?