[johnta1]

The Identification Number shows it was a cash deal.


Maybe a good deal on it for cash?

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

Originally Posted by Held for Ransom

Yup. Been watching since it came up. What's your take on the 13-244? And the later ship?

No clue on the memo note.
Checked 13-244 on Wallace's site to see if it was another dealer. No result.

Ship date -
would say it either waited on logistics for a transport to bummfuff kansas
or maybe it was set aside waiting on the special paint team to get it sprayed in OrbitO

There are bound to be some earlier OO bulletins that we have not seen or discovered. imo

[Gordon Church]

BVZ what's your take on that BaT OO judge ? Seems to me an honest car with an unresponsive seller.

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

It might be a single or widowed woman named Judy selling the car.
And perhaps very clueless.

They have responded several times , but with evasive answers

Or maybe a former politician or lawyer selling it.
(imply that it could be matching numbers , and should be #s ,,,, but don't say it is not ,,, while being sure not to claim that it is)

Either way , they are too far away to get further details while the scheduled BaT auction is live.
They have owned it 30 years but know nothing anymore. .

Too many negatives for a positive outcome on the engine/carb .
Car looks really good
Color is modified , or photos enhanced

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

Stumbled on another November OrbitO car , 11C this time .

[muscle_collector]

friend of mines dad owned this dealership. went out of business years ago.

[thepontiacman]

Here's a vin on end of original door I sold. 70 OO Judge.
Was told car was totalled years ago and was scrapped.
I think it was RA3 4spd, by the parts I got with door and trunk, hood tach, ram air hood parts, etc.

Sold new at Doug Willey Pontiac in Birmingham, sold dealer emblem off trunk.

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[Held for Ransom]

Baron Von Zeppelin, you should start a thread of your own and hopefully have some input on earliest Orbit Orange OO 06 trim tag GTO Judge or all vehicles.

[gtome]

Well bummer ..... guess I don't have the first one.

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

Wish it had of been a first week car for you.
Only a small stigma though , compared to the bigger perk that it is actually an OO car.
Black and OO seem to be the top 2 hoopla colors in the market on 70 Judges.

Wasn't expecting an 11A car to come along and pre-date the bulletin.

[gtome]

I had the rear spoiler in my bay and it has been stearing at me for a while. Decided to go ahead and do it to check the color match. Looks pretty good to me. I matched it to the original color in the door jamb. Only the whole rest of the car to go!

[gtome]

These were on the bench so I went ahead and did them too.

[Held for Ransom]

Baron Von Zeppelin, on the bypass code. Could it mean there were 1 or 2 special instruction cards for the vehicle? And, we don't really know what that is, per Pontiacman's docs.

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

Great Clue HFR !
I would definitely get on board with a definition in that direction.

Hats off to you and Grant for sourcing/revealing that document.

[Held for Ransom]

I just wonder if one of the instructions have to do with the new color (nose).

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

Possibly - as a theoretical guess - could be one card for Fisher on the peripheral spoiler color.
And another card for Fremont assembly side on the peripheral nose color.

Complete speculation of course

[gtome]

I wonder why though? As you have shown there are definitely 2-3 earlier than mine, so there should have been something in place for that already. I didn't look to see where those others were built though. Mine is a fremont car. This is all brand new stuff for me so I don't have much background knowledge of it all.

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

The 11A was Arlington built
I don't remember where the 11C came from
Your 11D might have been among first few at Fremont . Nobody can say for sure right now.

OrbitO was considered an extra cost / special paint color.
70 Judge package had extra cost / special paint color absorbed into the option.
On the few special paint 70 Judges that have turned up - none were charged extra for special paint.

With it being a fresh new release color , and special paint color - could be reason to suspect the special instruction cards.

I can't access my old files to try to make correlations on other ByPass 1 and 2 coded Bsheets.
It doesn't pop up real often and has always been an unknown variable.
The new document at least points us in a clearer direction.

[gtome]

Well I was kinda hoping this was nicer. I thought it might be fun to leave something in original paint. I do find it interesting where the paint is thin and you can see the runs in the middle. Mayne I will replicate that!

[gtome]

Chipping away. Stripped, 2 coats of DP90 epoxy, and 2 coats of polyester high build primer.