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some details (1970)
I have four questions about what is known to be correct for 1970 Firebirds.
Before posting here I did some searching, and asked someone who I thought might know; I could get no good answers.
Thanks in advance for contributing anything you are able.
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1970 Formula 400 Carousel Red paint on Black standard interior A no-engine, no-transmission, no-wheel option car. Quite likely one of few '70 Muncie three speed Formula 400's left. 1991 Grand Am: 14.4 @ 93.7mph (DA corrected) (retired DD, stock appearing) 2009 Cobalt SS: 13.9 @ 103mph (current DD; makes something north of 300hp & 350ft/lbs) Last edited by unruhjonny; 08-18-2019 at 07:06 PM. |
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1) faded chrome vent knobs here, kickpanels from std int early 2nd Gens, one pair is in a May '70 roller, looked the kickpanels over before rolling that Bird into far back corner of my shop. my exp is the black style knobs came later, have pulled quite a few pristine black kickpanels out of late 70's F-body's (mainly Camaros) & all had black knobs, & had to be changed.
2) standard wiper switch (not concealed) is all black button, labeled WASH. this switch was also used in '70 & 71 233 series, as well as '72 D27's, all when equipped without concealed wiper option. Own two 71's & a 72 performance A-body's all with std wipers. the switch with an all black button, but is labeled WIPE was installed in early 2nd Gen Birds with concealed wipers. have numerous 70-74 Firebird AM's in the AM radio tubs, have not hauled these tubs over yet, will ck when get them here.
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OPH;
Thank you so very much!!
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1970 Formula 400 Carousel Red paint on Black standard interior A no-engine, no-transmission, no-wheel option car. Quite likely one of few '70 Muncie three speed Formula 400's left. 1991 Grand Am: 14.4 @ 93.7mph (DA corrected) (retired DD, stock appearing) 2009 Cobalt SS: 13.9 @ 103mph (current DD; makes something north of 300hp & 350ft/lbs) |
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I'll go look at my 70 and report back. I'm missing the radio, but everything else is original.
I do know that the knobs on the kick panels are chrome, and it's a standard interior car.
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"Those poor souls have made the fatal mistake of surrounding us. Now we can fire in any direction" 1970 Trans Am RAIII 4 speed 1971 Trans Am 5.3 LM7 1977 Trans Am W72 Y82 1987 Grand National |
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Standard int Chrome
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thanks again guys!
I know that with where I'm at right now, were I able to attend the Trans Am nationals, I'd be pouring over and documenting any early cars that show up... Has it changed much since I was there in 2006(?); As I recall there were VERY few early 2nd gens there - let alone survivors. When I was there a shop had two recently completed early cars there; a white L67/4spd TA, and a red on red SD455/4spd(?) Formula; As I recall as beautiful as they both were, I was able to quickly see things that were wrong on both cars, which really surprised me; Don't get me wrong, I'd have happy accepted either, but considering the level of workmanship on the cars (they were stunning!), I was surprised at wrong parts being installed. But back to details pertaining to '70 Formulas, I found myself oogling over the "433 mile" black car article in 'Smoke Signals' last night; To me that car isn't cool because of the special order paint, or the mileage - it's that it has all the correct stuff. I am still a little confused by the myriad of fuel pump to carb fuel lines currently available, and not knowing what they are all based off of, or which one(s) are correct in appearance - or where they deviate from originals... So this leaves the console map pocket, and the AM radio dial face as the two remaining questions.
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1970 Formula 400 Carousel Red paint on Black standard interior A no-engine, no-transmission, no-wheel option car. Quite likely one of few '70 Muncie three speed Formula 400's left. 1991 Grand Am: 14.4 @ 93.7mph (DA corrected) (retired DD, stock appearing) 2009 Cobalt SS: 13.9 @ 103mph (current DD; makes something north of 300hp & 350ft/lbs) |
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1970-77 map pockets have the chrome trim that runs along the top. The map pocket with the trim only on the front is the result of GM switching to larger standardized Delco radios in 1978 that fit multiple car/truck lines. This redesign moved the bottom of the dashpad downward to the point it actually touched the center console and required the top trim on the map pocket to be removed for clearance.
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1970 Formula 400 Carousel Red paint on Black standard interior A no-engine, no-transmission, no-wheel option car. Quite likely one of few '70 Muncie three speed Formula 400's left. 1991 Grand Am: 14.4 @ 93.7mph (DA corrected) (retired DD, stock appearing) 2009 Cobalt SS: 13.9 @ 103mph (current DD; makes something north of 300hp & 350ft/lbs) |
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