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Old 04-27-2017, 06:08 PM
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Finally got around to taking some engine photos. This may explain the sheet metal
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YOU LUCKY JERK!!!!

Again - Congrats!!!!

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Old 04-27-2017, 06:32 PM
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Thanks to The Boss for fixing the pictures. I was reading something about Exif orientation. I wonder if that is causing my photo rotation problems?

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Well bought BobC.
It will be good to see progress and the finished project whichever way you go.
We are all looking forward to seeing the progress photos.

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Old 05-10-2017, 10:16 AM
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From the rear angle, those flares are GARGANTUAN maybe I see the back to stock choice...... what a great score....... 4 speed HO bird.

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Awesome score! Those wheels flares are...interesting!

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Old 05-14-2017, 08:28 PM
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The butchered bird had it's wings clipped today. Found some rust hiding under the fiberglass flares but nothing out of the ordinary.
I never had problems with pictures using a camera, my phone photos are unpredictability rotated!
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I checked out the engine and transmission VIN info today. There'a a 3 belt crank pulley so I'm going to assume it was an air car. The assembly plant code is Norwood so it had to be an F-body. Only the first 4 characters of the block VIN are legible due to pitting on the block. Those numbers do match the turbo 400
VIN stamp. The transmission VIN is somewhat
confusing. What I think should be a 1 looks like a 7 with the top crossbar missing. Has anyone else seen this on a Norwood car? If it is a 1 then the sequence number is 132837. I may order the PHS to see if it was a Formula or TA. Any input from the experts is appreciated!
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Old 05-14-2017, 09:38 PM
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Thanks to marxjunk for figuring out the 12 bolt rear end. The code is CBT which didn't match up with the Pontiac or Camaro 2nd gen. F-body codes. It appears to be a 3:55 posi Nova rear end that has had the spring perches relocated and sloppily welded back on. The drive shaft is labeled 72 Vega with a yellow paint pen!


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Old 05-14-2017, 09:53 PM
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It does look like a 7 thats been modified..it looks like it was done by GM to me...the cars keep rolling weather they broke or lost a #1 gang stamps or not..and they have in house machinists..i believe its a GM stamp..just a goofy one

ive never seen it that bad...but it has all the tell tale markers that is a GM stamp..besides..no one is going to fake that..they would fake it as a perfect stamp...not one as sloppy as that..it would raise questions etc..

and the condition of the car, no ones trying to fool anyone with that stamp..youre lucky it even exists in my opinon...how rare is a complete number matching motor carb to trans..you are very lucky in my opinion

id PHS that sequence and see what happens..ask Mattison if someone is looking for the motor..i bet if the car survived..theyd be glad to hear from ya..

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Old 05-14-2017, 10:16 PM
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I checked out the engine and transmission VIN info today. There'a a 3 belt crank pulley so I'm going to assume it was an air car. The assembly plant code is Norwood so it had to be an F-body. Only the first 4 characters of the block VIN are legible due to pitting on the block. Those numbers do match the turbo 400
VIN stamp. The transmission VIN is somewhat
confusing. What I think should be a 1 looks like a 7 with the top crossbar missing. Has anyone else seen this on a Norwood car? If it is a 1 then the sequence number is 132837. I may order the PHS to see if it was a Formula or TA. Any input from the experts is appreciated!
I've seen the same stamping situation on other turbo 400s with the 7 and 1

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Thanks to marxjunk for figuring out the 12 bolt rear end. The code is CBT which didn't match up with the Pontiac or Camaro 2nd gen. F-body codes. It appears to be a 3:55 posi Nova rear end that has had the spring perches relocated and sloppily welded back on. The drive shaft is labeled 72 Vega with a yellow paint pen!
The Nova 12 bolts had 5 Leaf perches. You dont want 5 leaf springs, unless you want a "highjacker" that only does burn outs. IMHO..

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The Nova 12 bolts had 5 Leaf perches. You dont want 5 leaf springs, unless you want a "highjacker" that only does burn outs. IMHO..
You say that like it's a bad thing Bruce.

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You say that like it's a bad thing Bruce.
Haha!! , I guess I differ to my lil Avatar on this one!!

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Great find Bob

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Old 05-20-2017, 08:34 PM
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Thanks Craig.
I went shoppin' today for TA cloning sheetmetal. A local Pontiac enthusiast contacted me about purchasing some extra parts that he'd accumulated.
The KR wheel has a date code of 12/30/70. What do the experts think would be a fair price for it? The rim doesn't look bent and the lug nut holes look average.
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If it's in good shape as you say it should be worth around $350-$400

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Starting price as a buyer would be 250.00 as a seller 400

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Old 05-20-2017, 10:50 PM
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I don't want to violate any forum rules. But, I would deliver it in the Kansas City area for $325. I appreciate the support given by others who post on this thread. If it's a wheel that someone on this thread needs I'd like to give them first shot.
The front valance I picked up needs some repair. Any feedback on how good the repop is?

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very good, ive installed a few..more than adequate for a clone

did you buy everything? in the pics?

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Any of those passenger side fenders early? Good?

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