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FYI,ALL 64 tempests(GTOs) got block mounted starters!ALL!Big cars got the bellhousing mounted starters so I guess you shoot craps on a big car block.EVERYONE I have ever owned had the pad and was drilled for the block mounted starter.Tom
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Somewhere in the production of 1964 big cars, Pontiac switched to the turbo 400. Probably when they ran out of blocks without starter bolt pads
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The big cars switched over to the TB400 in August which is when production starts for the next year.
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Wernher Von Braun warned before his retirement from NASA back in 1972, that the next world war would be against the ETs! And he was not talking about 1/8 or 1/4 mile ETs! 1) 1940s 100% silver 4 cup tea server set. Two dry rotted 14 x 10 Micky Thompson slicks. 1) un-mailed in gift coupon from a 1972 box of corn flakes. Two pairs of brown leather flip flops, never seen more then 2 mph. Education is what your left with once you forget things! |
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I have personally seen ( that I clearly remember) 2 64 catalina wagons with the rotohydramatic and a bell mounted starter.One was owned by my
brother 63 castings ,put in a 64 wagon, built in 63. |
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I ended up buying a 389 from the junk yard for $500 that turned out to have a rod knock. Then I switched it all over to a newer drive train because it was getting old messing with it. |
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Being "rebuild" immediately raises an eyebrow. Why is it for sale?
With no exceptions every single time I got involved with a "rebuilt" engine I wished later on that I would have just put that money toward doing one myself. I got "singed" a couple of times early in my learning curve, the last time was buying a complete "rebuilt" 1969 428 engine off a guy who told me the car got totaled and the engine removed. I bought it, paid $900 for it, had been looking for a 428 for years to replace the 400 in the Ventura (late 1980's) and three weeks later it was back out on the engine stand and I was building my own 428 to replace it. I was able to salvage the block, one head was cracked (overheated), the crank thrust was ate up, and enough metal pumped thru the rest of it I tossed most of it in the scrap pile......Cliff
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If you can read this, thank a teacher. If you can read this in English, thank a Veteran! https://cliffshighperformance.com/ 73 Ventura, SOLD 455, 3740lbs, 11.30's at 120mph, 1977 Pontiac Q-jet, HO intake, HEI, 10" converter, 3.42 gears, DOT's, 7.20's at 96mph and still WAY under the roll bar rule. Best ET to date 7.18 at 97MPH (1/8th mile), |
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My 64 Bonneville had a bell housing mounted starter, but had the pad and tapped holes for a block mount starter, also...
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1977 Black Trans Am 180 HP Auto, essentially base model T/A. I'm the original owner, purchased May 7, 1977. Shut it off Shut it off Buddy, I just shut your Prius down... |
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Obviously they had a few slim jims left after they switched blocks.
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No, remember Bonnevilles got the better Hydramatic. Don't remember their exact terminology...Super Hydramatic?
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1977 Black Trans Am 180 HP Auto, essentially base model T/A. I'm the original owner, purchased May 7, 1977. Shut it off Shut it off Buddy, I just shut your Prius down... |
#30
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Transmission shops and parts suppliers called them all Jetaways.
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The difference between inlaws and outlaws? Outlaws are wanted |
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Hydramatic
Hydramatic (Standard and Dual Path) used in 1946-63 Dynaflow Dynaflow (2 speed) used in 1948-63 Buick only Cast iron case PG Cast iron case PowerGlide (2 speed) used in 1950-62 Chevrolet only Jetaway 315 Jetaway 315 used in 1956-64 Olds, Pontiac, Cadillac, AMC TurboGlide TurboGlide used in 1957-61 Chevrolet only FlightPitch FlightPitch used in 1958-59 Buick only Corvair PG Corvair PowerGlide (2 speed) used in 1960-69 Corvair & 1961-63 Tempest only Buick Special Buick Special used 1961-63 in Buick Special only 240 RHM Roto-Hydramatic 240 used in 1961-63 Olds F85 only 375 RHM (Slim Jim) Roto-Hydramatic 375 (Slim Jim) used in 1961-64 Olds, Pontiac Al PG Aluminum PowerGlide (2 speed) used in 1962-73 Chevrolet only 300 THM Super Turbine 300 (2 speed) used in 1964-69 Buick, Olds, Pontiac Home |
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but not a slim jim....
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1977 Black Trans Am 180 HP Auto, essentially base model T/A. I'm the original owner, purchased May 7, 1977. Shut it off Shut it off Buddy, I just shut your Prius down... |
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Without documentation and photos of the rebuild, I'd pay max $500.
Same for my California 64 Bonne (sold new in May-June '64) |
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The site had a disclaimer that the info may not be 100 % accurate.
The slim jim was used in 61-64 catalina wagons . I know that to be gospel. Seen it more than once. |
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I can call a Tomatoe , a banana .That doesnt make it a banana.
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#38
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The Slim Jim (Roto Hydro) was used on all the short wheelbase 61-64 Pontiacs ( Catalina, Ventura, & GP) from what I know. The Super Hydro (or whatever you want to call it) was used on the Bonneville & Star Chief. Seems simple enough to me. I don't understand why people get all would up about the "name" for the Super Hydro. Seems some need to loosen their shorts some.
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#39
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I don't think anyone is getting overly wound up. Man those transmissions are golden oldies.
My good Pontiac friend went with me when I went to look at a 64 Bonneville ( that I did buy). I didn't exactly remember the model of the car. He was relieved when we pulled up, and saw Bonneville on it. He told me it had the better trans in it...
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1977 Black Trans Am 180 HP Auto, essentially base model T/A. I'm the original owner, purchased May 7, 1977. Shut it off Shut it off Buddy, I just shut your Prius down... |
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I'm interested in BUYING it. It has starter holes in block as has every 1964 Pontiac I've ever seen. Sorry "LATECH" in the 55 years since 1964 I've never seen a 1964 engine that didn't have the holes. I've been working on Pontiacs for almost 60 years.
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