['ol Pinion head]

Have a local aquaintance having trouble with the reproduction '67 shifter cable for the '67 Hurst dualgate shifter. He has original T-400 cable mtg bracket & new cable appears to have a slop in it & shifter will not actuate properly.

Anyone else having problems with the fit of their '67 only repro cables?

CCass, Is there more than one manufacturer of these?

Any remedys?

Thanks!

['ol Pinion head]

Have a local aquaintance having trouble with the reproduction '67 shifter cable for the '67 Hurst dualgate shifter. He has original T-400 cable mtg bracket & new cable appears to have a slop in it & shifter will not actuate properly.

Anyone else having problems with the fit of their '67 only repro cables?

CCass, Is there more than one manufacturer of these?

Any remedys?

Thanks!

['ol Pinion head]

ttt

[vidguy]

OPH,
I have one that I bought from PY a few months back that I have not installed yet. I will try to get on it this week and see. I also have the repro bracket, although my orig is n place and good. I'll compare..

James Fasso
james@icvdm.com
'67 GTO Conv
"220, 221, whatever it takes."

Micheal Keaton as "Mr. Mom"

[67gtocharlie]

I installed a new cable from PYP in my 67 GTO this winter. It didn't work right at first and I found out I didn't have the right trans cable bracket. Once I got the right one, it appears to work OK, but I haven't had the car on the road yet. Also, the cable has quite a bend in it, to allow the connection to the Hurst, but that must be the way it goes.

[Ccass]

As far as I know, there is only one mfg. I can't recall getting any returns on these because of fit problems. Occasionally the pressed end will pull off the cable. Are you sure this hasn't started to pull away?

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Fool around, Get hurt, don't come crying to me.

[engineer]

The 68 GTO automatic trans cable is still available from the local auto parts store and is exactly like the 67 GTO cable, although the parts book does not show it to fit a 67. I compared them size by size to an original 67 one. Cheaper and easier to get locally.

[Pontiac Marv]

According to my notes, the '67 GTO H.T. cable is one inch longer than the '68-'72 GTO H.T./A.T. cable.

'67 Cable Overall Length - 31 inches
'67 Cable Casing Length - 16 inches

'68-'72 Cable Overall Length - 30 inches
'68-'72 Cable Casing Length - 15 inches

Please note that GM never replaced either one of these cables with the other for service, so I think it would be safe to say they should not be interchanged assuming one wants the shifter mechanism installed in the factory position.

[engineer]

your notes are incorrect, as the 69-72 auto cable for the console is not like the 68 dual gate cable at all. If you look closely, the 68 and 67 dual gate cable does not compare with the 2 spd cable or the later model 3 spd auto cable.

[Pontiac Marv]

As per the Pontiac parts books I have, here are the complete applications for the following cables in question:

#9785910:
1965-68 Full-size Pontiac H.T. (M-40) (Turbo-Hydramatic 400)
1967 GTO H.T. (M-40) (Turbo-Hydramatic 400)

#9791611:
1968-72 T/8 H.T. (GTO & LeMans) (M-40) (Turbo-Hydramatic 400)
1969-72 Grand Prix H.T. (M-40) (Turbo-Hydramatic 400)
1968 T/6-T/8 A.T. (LeMans) (2-speed) With Padded Console (Very early cars used the 1967 console which used a different cable)
1969 T/6-T/8 A.T. (LeMans) (2-speed)
1969-72 T/6-T/8 H.T. (LeMans) (M-38) (Turbo-Hydramatic 350)

[engineer]

now you got me going. Please give me the dual gate shifter part nos. for the 67 and 68 GTOs. Then I can compare that to the dual gate I have out of the car along with the GP shifter and the aftermarket cable. That way I can figure out what I have. Thanks

[engineer]

okay, here is the problem. I responded that the aftermarket cable ATP Y-117 is an exact match to the 67 dual gate cable and that the Y-117 cable is shown to fit only the 1968 and later M-40 trans. Well, now I took that same Y-117 cable after comparing it to the 1967 original dual gate cable I had and compared it to a 1971 original Grand prix cable I also have. Guess what, it is not the same. It would appear that the Y-117 cable I got new just recently is the same as the 1967 original one. It is about 1 inch longer than the GP one at 31 inches, which is exactly the length that was given for the original 1967 cable above. So on Monday I will call ATP and ask them what length the cable should be since it is not listed in the catalog.

[engineer]

It seems that the ATP Y-117 cable is too long for the 68-72 applications it is supposed to fit, so for a while, there is a new 67 dual gate cable available, until they run another batch.

['ol Pinion head]

Engineer & all,
Thanks for your info. Feel bad as I started this thread & never replied back Do appreciate the help.

Could it be that even with correct '67 dualgate cable that one could have problems say if incorrect "original" lower cable to pan bracket was used. Thinking my local contact has a '68+ Turbo 400 lower bracket in use.

[engineer]

I bet the bracket would change position somewhat as well. It took me several times to get the dual gate cable adjusted so all the gears can be engaged.