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Surprised that he didn't take $28.8. That's close enough to $30,000, which I'd consider crazy money for that car. I'm not a numbers-matching guy, though. (And just because the seller says it's all original doesn't mean that it is.)
Those poverty caps certainly aren't original, and the front seats look pretty nice for a 120,000 mile car - especially when compared to the outside paint.
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Guys, please help me with a few variables if you could. The first one is:
1) If the car was a legitimate tri-power (what would the approximate value be?) From what I have seen in the market historically, I'd say generally $12,000- $15,000 more 2) If the car was a 1965 with tri-power (what would the approximate value be?) I think that would add another $5,000 on top of the $15,000. I'm interested in your feedback, thanks.
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Seems like a reasonable range on finished type cars or highly preserved unrestored/mostly unrestored.
If the qualities/contents/colors are fairly equal between the candidates. |
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Exactly my sentiments, thanks for responding Baron.
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Thank you for replying, I can always count on you for a straightforward response and that's what I'm looking for. I'm in the process of looking for a 1965 GTO and some guys are "off the chart" on what they think their cars are worth. I've been adding up the air miles this spring/summer with no success.
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Most of the best -really sought after type- 64 and 65 3x2 cars won't get sold again until current owners die or become feeble or buy retirement villa's.
Harder to find the right early cars being sold, and they usually have greater sentimental value than actual retail value. aka worth more to their owners, than to anyone else, sort of thing. |
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Too many people, especially muscle car people and people around here, put muscle cars on a golden pedestal without merit. Last edited by Chief of the 60's; 08-16-2019 at 04:43 PM. |
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LOL.....that was the very first thing that came to my mind, as well!
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Insanity! The pictures he sent me were carefully taken as not to show the really bad stuff. At least I got a chance to visit eastern Tennessee and visit an area I have always wanted to see. At least now I'm up to speed on Knoxville restaurants and hotels. :--)
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https://www.mecum.com/lots/DA0919-39...4-pontiac-gto/ Was said to be a matching # 78XW car with TriPower added. Anti-Radio with Heater Delete Seems like a better car and better value than the $35k eBay survivor Mecum usually shills them pretty close to reserve - so 30-35k probably would have bought it. |
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“Seems like a better car and better value than the $35k eBay survivor”
I disagree. For the most part, the eBay 64 Survivor doesn’t seem to be hiding anything. What you see, is what you get ...... with POP and more info. Legitimate. That one at Mecum is thrown together. LH door is a different color. Check out the RH hood hinge. Front arms are strap iron. Really. High gloss upper dash, on and on and on with this backyard car. My 3 cents. Chris.
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1) 65 GTO Survivor. 43,440 Original Miles. “Factory” Mayfair Maize Paint with Black Pinstripe, Black Cordova Top, Black Interior, OEM Numbers Matching Powertrain. Purchased from the Lady that bought it new. Baltimore Built (11A). 2) 66 GTO Survivor. “Factory” Cameo Ivory Paint with Red Pinstripe, Red Interior. OEM Numbers Matching Powertrain. Tri-Power (OEM Vacuum Linkage), Automatic "YR" code (1759 Produced). Fremont Built (01B), with the Rare 614 Option. Last edited by 60sstuff; 09-10-2019 at 04:59 PM. |
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It’s back 4 sale again.
Auction #193618607227
Same car as in post #1, but unfortunately this car has the wrong block. I saw the block cast date code (Oct 63) and it didn’t jive with the car build (July 64) so I was able to have the seller send me the block stamping. Not sure what this stamping represents, but it’s not the born with block. CT
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1) 65 GTO Survivor. 43,440 Original Miles. “Factory” Mayfair Maize Paint with Black Pinstripe, Black Cordova Top, Black Interior, OEM Numbers Matching Powertrain. Purchased from the Lady that bought it new. Baltimore Built (11A). 2) 66 GTO Survivor. “Factory” Cameo Ivory Paint with Red Pinstripe, Red Interior. OEM Numbers Matching Powertrain. Tri-Power (OEM Vacuum Linkage), Automatic "YR" code (1759 Produced). Fremont Built (01B), with the Rare 614 Option. |
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'64 27P is a pretty common Bonneville/Star Chief 389 when backed by a Super Hydramatic and without A/C.
EUN 056351 was assembled sometime in mid Oct I believe (too lazy to check my '64 Engine Log). Depending on which Final Plant installed it, probably came out of a build from early to mid Nov. '63 (or even late Oct). '64 Fremont builds will show their original EUN on the PHS record and will match the '64 Ident-O-Plate which shows EUN 587914. That engine was assembled a couple weeks before the end of '64 engine assembly as was the car itself. My engine log stops around EUN 610000 or thereabouts. I read thru the posts here. As a '64 owner I'm biased. I don't disagree with the valuation estimates. But I was shocked recently when a '65 hardtop recently sold for $71,000 on BaT. It was nice enough but...... Not too long ago, a '64 convertible went unsold, didn't hit $45,000 IIRC. I know what I think they should be worth but when I see auction results like these two, I realize there is no accounting for what Buyers will pay or not pay. Only truism, they are worth what a buyer will pay. |
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I'm gonna say it represents that he can either settle for 1/3 of his asking price, or keep the car until his funeral. A savvy/shady restoration farm could use the EUN data and make it whole again someday with a later dated restamped block. Wonder if it has the original 716 heads, or the 345 heads that would have been on the 27P engine ? |
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The ad specifically states
" ALL ORIGINAL SURIVIVOR!" 1964 PONTIAC GTO - CLEAN CA SURVIVOR! 4-SPEED, IDENT-0-PLATE, WINDOW STICKER, PHS DOCUMENTED! It doesn't say the original engine is still in the car but the ad it's misleading enough to considered false in my opinion. This car will be bought by a trusting guy (like myself) and maybe find out his GTO has a base 389 (from somewhere). while he's at a car cruise or show. Not fair to anybody.
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Gary,
I agree with you. But this happens with classic cars. DO YOUR HOMEWORK ! I’m not looking to buy this particular car, but I did reach out to the seller (as he suggests, via eBay or phone number) with questions. It worked. The “Powertrain” needs to be factory correct on these cars for the greatest value. CT
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1) 65 GTO Survivor. 43,440 Original Miles. “Factory” Mayfair Maize Paint with Black Pinstripe, Black Cordova Top, Black Interior, OEM Numbers Matching Powertrain. Purchased from the Lady that bought it new. Baltimore Built (11A). 2) 66 GTO Survivor. “Factory” Cameo Ivory Paint with Red Pinstripe, Red Interior. OEM Numbers Matching Powertrain. Tri-Power (OEM Vacuum Linkage), Automatic "YR" code (1759 Produced). Fremont Built (01B), with the Rare 614 Option. |
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Link to new auction listing
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1964-Pontia...JfMHF9&vxp=mtr Some good shots underneath the car. Looks like Fremont shot the whole underside with body color in 64. Didn't know that 12-15 seems like the "fair price range" considering the engine. It is a good car otherwise, in its own way. at 20k now with 4 days to go. |
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