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NEW SOURCE FOR DASHES!
Since I've been in contact with Al Knoch regarding the cushions and burlap, I brought up the idea of reproducing dashes. That said, they are now in the preliminary stages of doing so. I will probably be sending one of my cracked blue 70 dashes to work off of, but they'll need several for the process. They said they'll try to produce them in color -- I'll be pushing for the blue.
Differences I know about are the radio openings and I believe the grain of the vinyl. Do we know when the grain was changed? Anything else? The problem in reproducing these is that they have to disassemble original dashes to make new molds -- which destroys them -- but we'll see what we can do. Also, even the nice originals generally have some warpage on the leading edge, so it'll be tough to reproduce one. |
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That would be great to have another option for these.
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I have one (maybe two) that has a lot of damage- either cracked, or cracked and broken plastic- that I'd be happy to let them get their measurements, procedures, etc. off of.
No idea of the year- guessing mid-70's.
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Look for a date stamp on the back side of the dash around the glove box area. . I think.
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The goal here is to make a repro. of an earlier dash. They'll be using my 70 dash for the frame structure. I was told they wish to produce them in black and bright blue. It's cost prohibitive because the colored " ABS plastic" used for the skin can only be purchased in 1000 yard rolls. At $22 a yard, that's $22,000. They'll try to match the early grain texture. At this point -- still early -- cost estimate is $550 - $600 per finished dash.
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Any idea on a timeline?
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Current Pontiacs - 1973 Formula SD455 - #'s auto orig paint 1972 Trans Am - 4 speed orig paint 1974 Formula 400 - Ram Air automatic 1966 2+2 convertible - 421 4bbl automatic 1967 Grand Prix - 4 speed orig paint 1967 GTO - 4 speed orig paint 35k orig miles |
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And, no matter what, the rest of your dash parts (glove box, steering column shroud, ash tray) will need to be matched by dye-ing them. A good match will be difficult to achieve. Easier to just re-color them all at the same time so they match. And that means starting with a bright blue dash pad isn't of much value. JMO...
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Nothing matched when the cars were new...
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Current Pontiacs - 1973 Formula SD455 - #'s auto orig paint 1972 Trans Am - 4 speed orig paint 1974 Formula 400 - Ram Air automatic 1966 2+2 convertible - 421 4bbl automatic 1967 Grand Prix - 4 speed orig paint 1967 GTO - 4 speed orig paint 35k orig miles |
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Without being negative here.....
As soon as there is a second source for these dash pads......Classic Industries will ramp up production and FLOOD the market with them for $150.... Not a BAD thing for US....but Al Knock will end up "eating the weenie"...and loosing his investment......with NO profit margin....just sayin'
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I know Just Dashes is expensive . But who here has used Just Dashes to restore their dash pad? If so how did it turn out?
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Just Dashes appears to be the "default setting" for anybody doing a high dollar car...with NO budget restrictions...
They ARE nice.....but like a cap...you can usually tell.......they can look slightly "overstuffed"......and fitting the bezel can be tight
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I was leary about having them do my dash as I didn't want bezel fitiment issues. My original dash is pretty rough and butchered. I'll probably just throw in the repop POS in and call it a day. Anybody have any comments on the repop 4 speed console kit that Ames sells? They note that the dash bracket is plastic and the mounting holes might not line up. I pulled my console to install the dash and noticed my console is in worse shape than I thought.
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Current Pontiacs - 1973 Formula SD455 - #'s auto orig paint 1972 Trans Am - 4 speed orig paint 1974 Formula 400 - Ram Air automatic 1966 2+2 convertible - 421 4bbl automatic 1967 Grand Prix - 4 speed orig paint 1967 GTO - 4 speed orig paint 35k orig miles |
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I've heard that mounting an 8 track in the repop console is a chore....
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Current Pontiacs - 1973 Formula SD455 - #'s auto orig paint 1972 Trans Am - 4 speed orig paint 1974 Formula 400 - Ram Air automatic 1966 2+2 convertible - 421 4bbl automatic 1967 Grand Prix - 4 speed orig paint 1967 GTO - 4 speed orig paint 35k orig miles |
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I think the reason they want to do the blue is that they have bright blue plastic sheet in stock from a corvette project. They're going to send me a sample to look at. I'll ask about production time. I do know they won't be starting until Jan.
I just spoke with them again and was told they have the bright blue material they use for the arm rests etc. to use. Apparently they've made a number of tough dashes (Cuda, Challenger working with Year One) and have gotten pretty good at it. Initial Production/development time could be from 2 to 6 months. Last edited by FunctionalShaker; 12-10-2015 at 07:11 PM. |
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Current Pontiacs - 1973 Formula SD455 - #'s auto orig paint 1972 Trans Am - 4 speed orig paint 1974 Formula 400 - Ram Air automatic 1966 2+2 convertible - 421 4bbl automatic 1967 Grand Prix - 4 speed orig paint 1967 GTO - 4 speed orig paint 35k orig miles |
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Did the Whole interior on my Anniversary TA except for the door panels.
The work was really nice and the fitment was spot on.
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Thank you Harold for getting this going with Al Knoch, ready to order when they get them going.
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