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GTO $3500:

http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/cto/5788395286.html

LeMans 3k obo:

http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/cto/5755693990.html

http://westernmass.craigslist.org/cto/5768524785.html

Inspected, daily driver 5500 / obo:

http://worcester.craigslist.org/cto/5764026730.html

http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/cto/5777440806.html

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Ponyakr - What part of the country are you in?

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North Central Louisiana. But I don't mind having a car shipped. I bought one from Kansas, back in 2008. Cost about $550 to ship it. Don't know if shipping is any cheaper now or not, since fuel is cheaper now.

OK, now I'm gonna check out some of those links. Thanks again for posting !

Just saw the rag top, T-top, & T/A. I may have failed to mention I don't want a ragtop, T-top, moon roof, and I'd rather not have a vinyl top, or T/A. And 2-doors only. Also not interested in any year GP. Of the A-bodies, I'll consider '69, '71, '72, and a '70 ONLY with GTO front. Don't like the '70 Lemans front. So, that may help narrow the search.

OK, of those, I like the white '77 Bird, and both Vents. Only thing I have against the '74 Vent is the rear steer. But, I could live with it, if it's a deal I just couldn't pass up. The GTO ad was deleted. Most GTO's I've seen are way overpriced, or rust buckets, even the clones. But, a '69, '71, or '72 Tempest, Lemans, or T-37 will suit me just fine.


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OK, ya'll will just have to excuse my ignorance on this, please. I'm not real familiar with Craigslist. So, can you do some sort of search for a particular kind of car, nationwide, OR exactly how do you go about finding all these car listings ?

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OK, ya'll will just have to excuse my ignorance on this, please. I'm not real familiar with Craigslist. So, can you do some sort of search for a particular kind of car, nationwide, OR exactly how do you go about finding all these car listings ?
You can choose a state/city on this page


http://www.craigslist.org/about/sites#US

Then go to cars+trucks in FOR SALE section

All kinds of options for narrowing your search once you choose a location.

Kinda interested in your car myself
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OK, you have to choose one of the cities listed. That could take a LONG time, to check out all the cities that could possibly have an old Pontiac.

That's why I need as many guys as I can get, to help me search. But I'll start in my state, and work outward from there. I assume it's best to check the larger cities 1st.

Anyhow, thanks for the info. And if you wanna talk about my '68, or need more pics, just let me know.

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Central LA, gotcha.

http://shreveport.craigslist.org/cto/5773159232.html

You can use places like SearchTempest to search across all Craigslist locations too:

http://www.searchtempest.com/

Can narrow it by doing like Pontiac, with years like 1964 - 1981. Can do a max dollar of like 10k.

Wow. It is slim pickings down there. You need to go more north. Maybe TN, KY, KS or something.

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"...Wow. It is slim pickings down there. You need to go more north. Maybe TN, KY, KS or something..."


Yeah I just checked most of the mid south. I found a few possibilities. But no bargains. It seems that MOST are either rusty dogs, disassembled projects, or way to high.

I'm about to run out of this free internet time. But, Wed I'll post some of the possibilities and see if any member here lives close enuff to check 'em out for me.

I noticed that some of the ads don't show pics of certain parts of the car, leading me to believe there may be a hidden problem.

It's sometimes amusing, what some of the guys will say about a Pontiac engine. One said it was a 455 with alum intake, then said something about it being a Hemi. I read it several times. Don't have a clue why he used the word Hemi.

Anyhow, looks like this hunt could get very interesting. I assume there are always dealers & resto guys looking for bargains to buy and either restore or resell for profit. That's probably what makes good cars so hard to find.

I've noticed that there were more '79 Birds sold than any other year, followed by '78. So, I would assume that there will be more '79's for sale than any other year. But, most of 'em are T/A's. And a lot of 'em have T-Tops. But, I did find several that already had a 400 engine. I'd still probably be better off trying to find a '77-'78, with a 400. Thought maybe I'd run across a '79 with a '77-'78 nose, but didn't. And there are WAY more Bird choices than '71-'72 A-bodies.

Anyhow, the search continues.

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There are folks that search for project and flip cars, but trust me when I say, there's still PLENTY out there, more than they can buy up. Start in suburbs of metro areas, then do a few 20 mile or so rings around that when you search. Try to stay away from salt, like right at the ocean front or in states that have heavy snow falls (that use salt on roads).

5-15k is a great range for finding a car, the closer to 15k you are, the more complete and desirable the model/car will be. Shoot, some of the stuff I've seen on Mecum was ridiculously inexpensive, like I doubt I could build one for the price I've seen some go for. 25-30k gets you a sweet car, and not a Pacer or Vega wagon either. Real GTOs, driver quality stuff that looks great in a parking lot is in the 25-35k range, I just shopped them, found a bunch.

I say in order to get the GREAT deals, you have to be patient, and explore off the beaten path. That's where the whole 'barn find' thing comes from. Some people don't know what they have or how to get rid of stuff, so it will just sit, and unfortunately, a lot of times rot.

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Here's a few A-bodies I've found, that might work for me. All these links were up, at post time.


This Judge tribute looks OK to me. But with the low price of some of these cars, it makes me think there are hidden problems.

http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hn...751075829.html

This one needs a GTO nose.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1970-Pontiac...25.m3641.l6368

Since I like black, this may be my favorite.

http://mobile.craigslist.org/cto/5771383514.html

This one has a disk brake 12-bolt. It has a 383 sbc & big wheels, but, according to the ad, the guy will probably sell as a roller, without those wheels.

https://lexington.craigslist.org/cto/5764749234.html

This one has a straight six & Glide. But might be a good candidate for a 455 swap.

http://richmond.craigslist.org/cto/5758627979.htmlig

This one looks good except for the right side body damage. Might be a decent buy for a guy who can do his own body work.

http://denver.craigslist.org/cto/5772928407.html

The guy says this body is "immaculate", and has the original 350 & Glide. I assume that means it has a dual pattern Glide. I've only seen 2 of those.

https://okaloosa.craigslist.org/cto/5757561887.html

Hey, this what I've found so far, that I might could use. Don't know what'll be out there when I can buy. So, do any of you guys know of some better buys, on similar A-bodies ?


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As for the 2nd gen Birds, here are the best possibilities I've found.

This 1st one is on Ebay, so the reserve may put it out of bargain range. But, it looks super clean, and it's black. A rear deck spoiler and a 455 would make it a nice ride, IMO.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1977-Pontiac...25.m3641.l6368

This is a nice lookin Formy. The ad says it's mostly all original.

https://classiccars.com/listings/vie...innesota-56556

After looking at a lot of Bird pics, I have decided that I don't want a '79, for several reasons. First, I don't like the look of the nose or the tail, and don't wanna have to swap out both ends. And unless it was a W-72 or 301 car, that requires more changes. A 77-'78 with a Pontiac engine will have the look I want, and will make a 455 install easier. No sense in saving a few bucks, only to create more work for yourself. IMO

So, if it's a Bird, it'll need to be a '77-'78, either with a Pontiac engine, or a REAL bargain, with some other engine.

As of this moment it appears that my best choice might be a '73-'74 Ventura, since those bodies are cheaper than most of the clean A-bodies & Birds I'm lookin at. But hey, I suppose things could change, if a real bargain comes along. So, I'll remain open, and keep lookin.


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Other than the SBC engine this one looks good for a 79 Formula

http://sandusky.craigslist.org/cto/5748778456.html

This 79 with a 73 front clip does not sound to bad, new 400 4-speed car.

http://youngstown.craigslist.org/cto/5744151248.html

Not A Pontiac, but when is the last time you saw a Base 76 Camaro with a 250 I-6 and a 3-speed Manual?

http://detroit.craigslist.org/wyn/cto/5792838238.html

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Thanks for the links. But, I have decided that since I don't like the looks of either the nose or tail of the '79-'81 Birds, I'll only consider '77-'78 models.

The exception would be if somebody had already done a good swap job on both the nose & tail.

But even then, a non-Pontiac engine will require more work and parts.

So, as of right now, I'll try to hold out for a '77-'78, with a Pontiac engine. A '78 with W-72 400 would be the 1st choice, of course. 2nd choice would be a GOOD 455. 3rd choice would be a non 557 block 400, followed by a '77 W-72.

But hey, even a 301 equipped car would be better than a 403 or sbc.

Like most who can't do their own body & resto work, the main thing is a clean, mostly rust free body, with at least a decent interior. It's been my experience that the only way to score one like this is to be in the right place at the right time, with the cash in hand.


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Maybe this would be of interest? Has a SBC though...

http://boise.craigslist.org/cto/5794540210.html

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How about a 78 Red Bird? It is an original 305 chevy car though

http://cleveland.craigslist.org/cto/5727333414.html

or a supposedly running Black SE T/A 400 Pontiac, has new floor that come with it. From the looks of it I probably drove worse rusted cars daily all thru the late 70's to the 90's

http://southbend.craigslist.org/cto/5767064867.html

Or a 78 Blue Bird

http://dayton.craigslist.org/cto/5793310782.html

Black 78 400 T/A

http://norfolk.craigslist.org/cto/5770466405.html

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Thanks for those links guys !

Of those I'd choose the Sky Bird, IF it has a decent interior. Since no interior pics were posted, it may have problems. But, the body looks good.

But, after giving it considerable thought, I'm gonna try to hold out for something with a Pontiac engine, especially a 350 or larger. That could make a Bird worth thousands more than one with a Chevy engine, to me.

The sbc engine and most everything that's bolted to it is absolutely worthless, to me. I've tried to sell decent Chevy performance parts. Nobody in my neck of the woods is interested. They all say they can buy 'em cheaper, or have a friend or relative who will give 'em what they need. No market whatsoever.

So, a weak 305 would be worthless. I probably couldn't get $100 for it, running. Then, there are all the extra parts needed for a Chevy to Pontiac swap, plus all the extra work. At this point in my life, I've decided that I'm not gonna take on projects like that.

A body in decent shape, like that Sky Bird, with any kind of Pontiac engine, even a 301, is something I'd consider. And, there should be quite a few '77-'78 non-T/A Birds out there, with a Pontiac engine. Even if the engine is bad, a 350 or 400 would have 6x heads, and all the pulleys, mounts, and stuff I'd need to install my 455.

Since I'm not in a hurry, I'll just keep lookin. Out of all the Birds out there, I only need one. So, I'll find it, or something that'll work for me.

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I know of a good possibility that shouldn't turn into a major project. But, it can't be a swap--cash only. So, I've decided to put some parts up for sale, to raise some cash.

Don't know how many guys live close enuff to North LA to come pick up some Pontiac parts.

But, here's what I'm offering:

(1) The 455 engine that came out of my last bracket car. It's a 455 with #215 heads. Forged rods(probably 5140's) & pistons(probably L2359NF SP's), a decent but unknown HFT cam(I didn't build it--came in car), deep pan, brand new Chinese single plane intake, & M/T valve covers.

(2) Long tail TH400, with 10" converter(under 3000 stall). This engine/trans/converter ran 7.30's at our local 1/8 mile track, footbrakin. At that time it had a Torker 2, Holley 750 vac, & HEI. But I now have these parts on my Bracket Bird.

(3) A 500557 block 400, intake to oil pan, plus the TH350 that's still bolted to it.

So, you get a decent 455, less carb & dist, a good, long tail TH400 with 10" converter, a core 557 400 with 6x-8 heads, and a core TH350.

I'll take $2500 for everything. But, you'll have to pick up--can't ship.

I'll post some pics of the 455, when it was still in the car. Can take current pics of all these parts, for those who are seriously interested.
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Wow ! Thanks Matt ! Now that's what I'm talkin about.

If I had the cash, I'd jump on that one.

Hey, I'd even swap my bracket Bird even, for that one.

I'm reminded of the '79 301 Lemans Stocker, that Don Himes drove. He ran high 12's in NHRA Stock form.

I don't know about the 10.5 CR engine. But, there are all sorts of fixes for that.

Question: This may have already been answered, but would a 301 '79 Lemans have come with a 7.5 rear or 8.5 ?

I've read that the 7.5 can be built to survive some high performance use, with the correct build & the right parts, such as a good posi unit, stronger axles, and a special rear cover. Anybody know any secrets for makin 'em live ?

http://www.hotrod.com/articles/hppp-...rearend-build/

http://www.taperformance.com/proddet...p?prod=TA_1809

https://www.amazon.com/TA-Performanc.../dp/B003T285TY

http://www.jegs.com/i/LPW/619/101-7.5G/10002/-1

Another question: Is there an 8.5 rear that will bolt in, to replace a late Lemans 7.5 ? I'm assuming the later Lemans models had coil springs. ?


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I just read that Buick GN and '80's model 442 Olds had 8.5 "G-body" rear that might bolt in to a '79 Lemans.

I assume these are rare & expensive nowadays.

Here's one on Ebay for $950--pick-up only.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1986-1987-bu...-/191975356459

I assume a '78-'81 Lemans would be considered a "G-body", even if they were still called an A-body when they were new. So, I suppose that means any G-body rear from '78 to '87 or so, would bolt in. ???

Here's a complete 9" Ford G-body rear, for about $2k. Might be a better buy. You could even have 2 chunks set up--one for street cruising, one for strip time.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/9-Inch-Ford-...-/391407302983


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a little too rough, but the price reflects that.

http://westernmass.craigslist.org/cto/5795971263.html

1971 pontiac t37 lemans 6cly does run and drive needs battery and floor work started one side but needs to be finished trunk solid frame good an all oringal car for restore that runs 2500 obo call anytime 4138836537


too expensive, but what the hell, it ok to dream a little.

http://hudsonvalley.craigslist.org/cto/5793078269.html

1971 Pontiac GT/37 has a 400 motor has a new turbo trany in it, new tires, extra heads for it, extra manifold, new indash gages still on box never installed, new electric fan never installed still in box, 2 spare tires no leaks, engine has cam and elbrock 850 carburetor , duel exhaust, clean interior on the inside, runs and drive good, nothing wrong with it great show car or just a fun weekend car to drive around in. NO EMAILS feel free to call after 6 pm please name is Paul. (845)-591-4466

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