[TA455HO]

I stopped by and looked at this one in person. Clock knob is wrong. Lol.

For your viewing pleasure.

http://www.parkplaceltd.com/used-car...X228870N130932

Chad

[Norwood]

Just the clock knob. Lol

[RAJ7395]

Could be the lighting but the hood looks like it's a later piece with the oval cutout instead of the round one.

[keith k]

Originally Posted by RAJ7395

Could be the lighting but the hood looks like it's a later piece with the oval cutout instead of the round one.

Yep - definitely a later hood.

[Formulabruce]

"Pardon me, could you pass the UNDERBODY SLATHER please?"

[dpoltzer]

Ican't stand it when underbodies of "restored" cars are covered with the black crap. Not only does it not look good but makes me think they are hiding rust issues!

[johnta1]

No vinyl piece between the rear seat bottoms?


Still a nice looking TA.

[Judge273]

That price a sign that these are getting higher? Or is this a dream price for a car that needs more?

[RicksGTO]

the paint and body panel fit look like someone spent some $$ on that area of the car. The underbody with the excessive undercoating, chrome sway bar assembly, welded connectors and odd looking exhaust aren't in line with the rest of the cars restoration to me. Those can be fixed but it makes you wonder if other areas of the restoration may have been done in a similar way that won't add up to that price.

[eaglesan13]

Are we throwing this into the shark tank? Cause there's a lot to pick on with this car. I'm guessing this is a dream price, but that's JMHO. The undercarriage is a real turnoff.

Chad, how did the paint look in person? It's really hard to tell the quality from pictures with a white car.

Originally Posted by Judge273

That price a sign that these are getting higher? Or is this a dream price for a car that needs more?

[unruhjonny]

what's funny is that the merits of cars being discussed here seem to be overshadowed by many of the smaller details.

I spoke with a gent this past year who voiced something very much along these lines, and it made me take pause, and realize that we are often overly critical.

I can't help but feel that the values of these cars seeming to leave the stratosphere is a double edged blade - on one hand you can justify the expense of a $40k restoration, but on the other hand, this is pricing many people who might want a car like this to enjoy right out of the...
And that's not mentioning the possibility of someone buying in at these prices, and the market correcting itself.

Sheesh, I would have NEVER dreamed that a '70 RAIII T/A would be a $75k car!!

I looks great, but do agree that for the asking price you might think the owner would go through the car with a proverbial fine toothed comb to make sure everything is absolutely correct - and there would be no cause for concern on the part of any potential buyers (eg: sloppy undercoating is there ti hide rot ect)

EDIT: 3.08:1 with a RAIII/M20 and NO a/c?
That cannot be right...
I thought this car should be 3.55:1

[bird72]

I don't think they call the car restored (?). IMO underside looks like old undercoating from years ago that has newer black paint on top of it. Doesn't that make this car a nice "driver" (?) Nobody would undercoat a resto, not even in Montucky.

[NOT A TA]

I don't see anything in the advertising indicating that the car has been restored or is concours correct. Only claims to anything being original is "numbers matching" and "original door panels/dash/headliner" with the original owners manual and radio (uninstalled) being given with purchase.. While members here are very knowledgeable about these cars and all the little details of a "correct" restoration , there's a lot of people who don't really care how correct it is as long as it looks and performs to their expectations for the price they pay. Looks like someone spent a lot of money on it and then said "that's enough" so WE notice the things WE think should be done or corrected but does it really mater to the average enthusiast? For me it's stuff like the wrong bolts holding the shocks to the lower control arm, ahahaha.

Edit: Anthony was thinking the same as I was but I type slow.....

[Formulabruce]

While "Subjective" ( "based on or influenced by personal feelings, tastes, or opinions") is a strong motivation to purchase, ( Driveable as is, etc), The $ 70k to "most' would indicate a collector/investment car. That said; the "weld in" frame connectors, the weak core support on one side and the hideous amount of some sort of goop on the bottom take this car clearly out of the Investment/collector status.
If I had the money to burn, I would pay the 70K and do a you tube show as its stripped ,and show whats hidden.
Would cost a LOT to address the bottom as it sits , not blown apart.
It is at a Flipper, so the price is expected, but I doubt a sale will occur. My buddy says "there is an ASS for every seat"
A 4 post high lift, Outside, with a "REAL" steam cleaner, would be a start. I wonder how many "Subjective" opinions would change then ?

[Judge273]

I'm glad to see the discussion more focused on realistic car use and values.

I do love driving my cars, and hope they hold collector value due to rarity and such. With that said I also know nothing I own is a Perfect nut and bolt restoration. I have had a few of them Concourse Judged and pleased with results.

As you all know I recently restored a 71 TA for my wife to drive as well. Not sure if she could appreciate it any other way? Granted I used a ton of Nos parts and did all things like factory.

So, it's a fun driver with all components working. NOS suspension, bushings, and handling is solid. I know its value isn't concourse, collector, museum quality. I've seen a few of those and more that guys drive and enjoy.

Enough about that... This car seems to be a solid driver and sits very nice due to it not being overly restored? Appearance wise it is also very presentable. I know 70k is the asking price, and wonder what realistic value this car is at?

[unruhjonny]

I think the whole key is the asking price;
I think the nail was hit on the head suggesting that the asking price is for an "investment quality" car, but by all appearances, this car falls short of that mark.
I'd love to have it in my garage, but can think of a same-year Formula 400 that I'd buy first, and still have $30k in the bank.

[72projectbird]

So what's the differences in clock knobs?

I better make sure I have the correct one! lol

[Formulabruce]

1970 clock knob

[unruhjonny]

/\ sabed me from taking a picture!!
lol

is that a 1973 dash insert?

[Formulabruce]

It is a 73 insert. Yes.