THE LOBBY A gathering place. Introductions, sports, showin' off your ride, birthday-anniversary-milestone, achievements, family oriented humor.

          
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #21  
Old 09-05-2019, 03:17 PM
67drake's Avatar
67drake 67drake is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Muscoda WI
Posts: 2,849
Default

Got a few pics today. I can post more after work. Sorry , I don’t know how to get them right side up!
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	59F885EB-DD62-414E-940F-DA4C406A6A35.jpg
Views:	75
Size:	128.5 KB
ID:	519528   Click image for larger version

Name:	82E67740-F795-483D-A446-9B66FECE94E1.jpg
Views:	78
Size:	122.2 KB
ID:	519529  

__________________

71' GTO -original 400/4-speed/3.23 posi
13.95 @ 102.1 on street tires @ 4055lbs.

‘63 LeMans- ‘69 400 w/ original transaxle. 2.69 gears.
  #22  
Old 09-05-2019, 04:27 PM
73LeMans's Avatar
73LeMans 73LeMans is offline
Chief Ponti-yacker
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Berkley, MA
Posts: 873
Default

Nice car. Even upside down. That is the color I was looking for when I found this one. 72 GS 350. I'm a member on the v8Buick.com board if I can help in any way.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	20160416_123311.jpg
Views:	61
Size:	63.5 KB
ID:	519532  

__________________
.
Mark S
.
Who needs nice and pretty, when you can have mean and nasty?
KRE Aluminum headed 463CID 73 LeMans. Used to run 10.6x @ 124.55. 3700lbs
.
So much for 2020...shootin for 9s in 2021...and in 2022 apparently.....looks like 2023 as well.
>>My 73 Build thread

Last edited by 73LeMans; 09-05-2019 at 04:35 PM.
  #23  
Old 09-05-2019, 08:38 PM
67drake's Avatar
67drake 67drake is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Muscoda WI
Posts: 2,849
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 73LeMans View Post
Nice car. Even upside down. That is the color I was looking for when I found this one. 72 GS 350. I'm a member on the v8Buick.com board if I can help in any way.
Yeah. Tell them to return my email! I tried contacting them because I tried to join and it wouldn’t go through!

__________________

71' GTO -original 400/4-speed/3.23 posi
13.95 @ 102.1 on street tires @ 4055lbs.

‘63 LeMans- ‘69 400 w/ original transaxle. 2.69 gears.
  #24  
Old 09-05-2019, 08:44 PM
67drake's Avatar
67drake 67drake is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Muscoda WI
Posts: 2,849
Default

A few more
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	B2BDE263-60C9-4926-8E38-3A466A91A5A1.jpg
Views:	47
Size:	144.3 KB
ID:	519549   Click image for larger version

Name:	E7CA4F4C-993D-4218-A14D-B3A455C2583E.jpg
Views:	48
Size:	68.8 KB
ID:	519550  

__________________

71' GTO -original 400/4-speed/3.23 posi
13.95 @ 102.1 on street tires @ 4055lbs.

‘63 LeMans- ‘69 400 w/ original transaxle. 2.69 gears.
  #25  
Old 09-05-2019, 09:36 PM
wovenweb's Avatar
wovenweb wovenweb is offline
Chief Ponti-yacker
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Tejas
Posts: 555
Default

Hopefully right side up
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Number 1.jpg
Views:	60
Size:	111.8 KB
ID:	519554   Click image for larger version

Name:	Number 2.jpg
Views:	61
Size:	106.7 KB
ID:	519555   Click image for larger version

Name:	Number 3.jpg
Views:	64
Size:	124.0 KB
ID:	519556   Click image for larger version

Name:	Number 4.jpg
Views:	57
Size:	63.3 KB
ID:	519557  

__________________
1971 Pontiac Trans Am Cameo White
1968 Firebird 400 coupe, Verdoro Green w/black vinyl top
1968 Firebird 400 convertible, Verdoro Green w/black top
1970 Buick Skylark Custom convertible(driver) Fire Red
1972 Buick GS 455 Stage 1 Royal Blue
  #26  
Old 09-05-2019, 09:39 PM
wovenweb's Avatar
wovenweb wovenweb is offline
Chief Ponti-yacker
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Tejas
Posts: 555
Default

Interesting that it has the mounting pad for a passenger side mirror. Up until a month ago, those were highly valued items ($1,000 or so though I may be high) if it was correct(tri-shield logo in the corner of the back of the mirror). The Parts Place starting repoping them and so they may have dropped considerably. Early reviews are that it is a decent part from TPP.

Interesting that they put the GSX spoiler on there.

See post #8 in this thread to determine who to order Buick factory information from:

http://v8buick.com/index.php?threads...wl-tag.349501/

__________________
1971 Pontiac Trans Am Cameo White
1968 Firebird 400 coupe, Verdoro Green w/black vinyl top
1968 Firebird 400 convertible, Verdoro Green w/black top
1970 Buick Skylark Custom convertible(driver) Fire Red
1972 Buick GS 455 Stage 1 Royal Blue
  #27  
Old 09-06-2019, 01:13 AM
67drake's Avatar
67drake 67drake is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Muscoda WI
Posts: 2,849
Default

Forgot one
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	0957E194-0257-43B3-8A7B-E9C4DD470286.jpg
Views:	50
Size:	111.8 KB
ID:	519560  

__________________

71' GTO -original 400/4-speed/3.23 posi
13.95 @ 102.1 on street tires @ 4055lbs.

‘63 LeMans- ‘69 400 w/ original transaxle. 2.69 gears.
  #28  
Old 09-06-2019, 02:21 AM
Lightfoot's Avatar
Lightfoot Lightfoot is offline
Chief Ponti-yacker
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: The Banana Republic
Posts: 929
Default

So how does the 446 on the trim tag compare to the 4 44 in the VIN example on post #3 ?

Is one a GS and the other a GSX ?

  #29  
Old 09-06-2019, 04:33 AM
wovenweb's Avatar
wovenweb wovenweb is offline
Chief Ponti-yacker
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Tejas
Posts: 555
Default

444 would be a Skylark Custom, the 446 shows it to be a GS. Silver Mist paint, white vinyl top, with a pearl white interior.

__________________
1971 Pontiac Trans Am Cameo White
1968 Firebird 400 coupe, Verdoro Green w/black vinyl top
1968 Firebird 400 convertible, Verdoro Green w/black top
1970 Buick Skylark Custom convertible(driver) Fire Red
1972 Buick GS 455 Stage 1 Royal Blue
  #30  
Old 09-06-2019, 10:39 PM
Diego Diego is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 2,117
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by wovenweb View Post
the 446 shows it to be a GS.
This is not quite true.

446 = GS 455
434= GS

  #31  
Old 09-06-2019, 11:02 PM
242177P's Avatar
242177P 242177P is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Vancouver, BC
Posts: 1,716
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lightfoot View Post
Is one a GS and the other a GSX ?
The 70 GSX was only available in two flavors. Saturn Yellow, and Apollo White.

  #32  
Old 09-07-2019, 12:58 AM
67drake's Avatar
67drake 67drake is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Muscoda WI
Posts: 2,849
Default

Seeing as how I still can’t join v8 Buick (argh) I’ll ask you guys-
From what I understand the GS could come with different HP level 455’s, correct? If so,Is there any way to find out what a particular car came with?

__________________

71' GTO -original 400/4-speed/3.23 posi
13.95 @ 102.1 on street tires @ 4055lbs.

‘63 LeMans- ‘69 400 w/ original transaxle. 2.69 gears.
  #33  
Old 09-07-2019, 01:24 AM
Diego Diego is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 2,117
Default

I’ll write to the owner of the site for you.

There were two GS models:

- GS with 350/315
- GS 455 with 455/350 or Stage 1

There are some tell-tale signs but prob an automatic would help as I think the 4-speed was identical for both. There is a document service but I am not sure which year is missing. Rich Johns on this site knows all about these cars....will try to give him a heads-up.

  #34  
Old 09-07-2019, 06:17 AM
wovenweb's Avatar
wovenweb wovenweb is offline
Chief Ponti-yacker
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Tejas
Posts: 555
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Diego View Post
I’ll write to the owner of the site for you.

There were two GS models:

- GS with 350/315
- GS 455 with 455/350 or Stage 1

There are some tell-tale signs but prob an automatic would help as I think the 4-speed was identical for both. There is a document service but I am not sure which year is missing. Rich Johns on this site knows all about these cars....will try to give him a heads-up.
The documents are spilt between Sloan and Wayne Roberts based on VIN. The split of VINs is documented here:
http://sloanlongway.org/wp-content/u...iable-VINs.pdf

1971 is the missing year.

__________________
1971 Pontiac Trans Am Cameo White
1968 Firebird 400 coupe, Verdoro Green w/black vinyl top
1968 Firebird 400 convertible, Verdoro Green w/black top
1970 Buick Skylark Custom convertible(driver) Fire Red
1972 Buick GS 455 Stage 1 Royal Blue
  #35  
Old 09-07-2019, 06:58 AM
wovenweb's Avatar
wovenweb wovenweb is offline
Chief Ponti-yacker
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Tejas
Posts: 555
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 67drake View Post
Thanks again guys.
Went and looked at it today. Body tag and vin shows it as being a ‘70 GS 455. Silver with white trim/ interior. Now is painted a medium blue metallic. It runs and drives, but currently has a Chevy:396 and the 4 speed has been replaced with a non original one. It has Stage 1 badges on it, but owner didn’t know if they were original.
Now to figure out what this thing is worth.
Quote:
Originally Posted by 67drake View Post
Originally I wanted to join so I could find out how to tell if the car was an original GS and how to ID it. I pretty much have done that now with the other tips provided.
I would like to find out roughly what it’s worth. Most I find for sale online are either restored or basket cases. This one is kind of in between. I did get to look into the trunk yesterday, and the floor is rusted. The rear window channel has rust, but not through from what I could see. The rest of the body/frame looks solid except for surface rust. Part of the floor pan has already been replaced. I can get pictures tomorrow if they are home. Too busy today.
The questions left are I think: was it a real Stage 1 and then what is it worth? Depending upon VIN, Sloan or Wayne Roberts can answer the first one for a fee.

On the latter part, I did look at this numbers matching but likely less desirable color car on Thursday. It sold for a hammer price of $41 on Friday.

https://www.mecum.com/lots/DA0919-38...ck-gs-stage-1/

You should be able to sell the Chevy drivetrain parts to recoup some of the investment. It is definitely a project but as you note not a complete basket case. As some at the v8Buick site will complain, non-numbers matching Buicks even if Stage 1s, etc. seem to take a bigger hit than other makes. Even done right and it is a Stage 1 IMHO you are looking at a high 30s - low 40s car. Done right to me is back to original color and interior and option load with a Buick 455 put back in it.

Just one person's opinion. I do this math all the time for my GS455 vert project.

__________________
1971 Pontiac Trans Am Cameo White
1968 Firebird 400 coupe, Verdoro Green w/black vinyl top
1968 Firebird 400 convertible, Verdoro Green w/black top
1970 Buick Skylark Custom convertible(driver) Fire Red
1972 Buick GS 455 Stage 1 Royal Blue
  #36  
Old 09-09-2019, 09:40 PM
Diego Diego is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 2,117
Default

Here's what the Admin on the v8Buick site told me:

Quote:
He is all set ... I confirmed his account when I got his email on the 31st of Aug, and sent him and email to that effect..

Problem is, he is not getting my or the boards emails.. contact him on that other board and tell him you is all set to go here, just log in with his username and password.. I did fix his email address..

  #37  
Old 09-10-2019, 01:34 AM
67drake's Avatar
67drake 67drake is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Muscoda WI
Posts: 2,849
Default

Thanks Diego! Just tried logging in over there and it works. Yeah, for some reason I’m not getting any of his E-mails. I even checked my junk inbox.

__________________

71' GTO -original 400/4-speed/3.23 posi
13.95 @ 102.1 on street tires @ 4055lbs.

‘63 LeMans- ‘69 400 w/ original transaxle. 2.69 gears.
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:01 AM.

 

About Us

The PY Online Forums is the largest online gathering of Pontiac enthusiasts anywhere in the world. Founded in 1991, it was also the first online forum for people to gather and talk about their Pontiacs. Since then, it has become the mecca of Pontiac technical data and knowledge that no other place can surpass.

 




Copyright © 2017