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Yes. I checked for this book, "Echoes of Norwood" availability , and so far, nothing.
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1970 Lucerne Blue Firebird Trans Am, deluxe blue interior. Original Ram Air III, M-21, 3.73. Being built as a 4" stroke "434" with SR 614 Ram Air IV heads 1972+ Lucerne Blue 4-door hardtop "what if" T-41 Le Mans Sport GT/Grand Am concepts. Equipped with future 3" journal "455 HO"/"what if" prototype "SD 455". What if GM had continued production of the 1970-72 GM A body somewhere in the southern hemisphere? |
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Seems a shame on scrapped 72's, but I'm sure they did a bottom line cost analysis. There are a lot of 73 differences as said. Drivetrain, structural, and cosmetic. My 72 missed a death by a week or so (shipped 04-07)
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Like they did in scrapping Ram Air V engines etc.? Instead of just selling them for cash?
I say that such destructive behavior was evident of a corporation lacking souls at the top, and inhabited by people such as but not limited to Casario who should not have been in such positions.
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1970 Lucerne Blue Firebird Trans Am, deluxe blue interior. Original Ram Air III, M-21, 3.73. Being built as a 4" stroke "434" with SR 614 Ram Air IV heads 1972+ Lucerne Blue 4-door hardtop "what if" T-41 Le Mans Sport GT/Grand Am concepts. Equipped with future 3" journal "455 HO"/"what if" prototype "SD 455". What if GM had continued production of the 1970-72 GM A body somewhere in the southern hemisphere? |
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I found several places. $39.95 but the shipping, $10 - $11 to Texas
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According to the book interior flammability changes were part of the equation also.
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Quote:
Lawyers and sue happy people ruin it for everybody..
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Current Pontiacs - 1973 Formula SD455 - #'s auto orig paint 1972 Trans Am - 4 speed orig paint 1974 Formula 400 - Ram Air automatic 1966 2+2 convertible - 421 4bbl automatic 1967 Grand Prix - 4 speed orig paint 1967 GTO - 4 speed orig paint 35k orig miles |
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Back in 1980 and 81 we had a bunch of Camaros and Firebirds [TAs and Formulas] dropped off from the rail head at St. Therese to the yard we loaded from. Tho not the amount destroyed at Norwood in 72. These cars looked even worse than those from 72 that were scrapped. These had the radios hacked out of them by either an ax or hatchets, the seats and wheels taken, hoods taken, spoilers taken, and T-tops either smashed or stolen. All together there were about 150 + cars that were butchered by thieves. Even a few Corvettes were in the mix and sat off in their own section in another lot next to us.
We weren't even allowed to take pictures of them. GM said no photos and they meant it. Each time they were dropped off they sat there next to the office only for a very short time to be inventoried and then they disappeared to who knows where. Probably out back to be crushed and scrapped.
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Gary Get in, ShuT Up, Hang On! Member of the Baltimore Built Brotherhood MY GTO built 4th Week of March 1966 "Crusin' Is Not A Crime" Keep yer stick on the ice. |
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That car looks like the twin to my 71 Lucy Blue with white/black interior, down to the rear bumper guards. I picked it up in 1982.
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Its easy to look back 40 + years knowing the value of these cars now and criticize their decision. But, when this happened they were nothing more than scrap metal at the time. Yes its a shame to crush a perfectly good new car, but what the hey. Besides, this is a contributing factor to the value of a current '72 'bird. All of the owners of these should be glad they crushed so many of them
At one point Gibson guitars was sold off, there was a slow selling model that they crushed. Theres videos of dozers running over hundreds of brand new guitars. Kinda cool, unless youre a guitar guy I suppose. |
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Not sure how "Easy" it is, Kerry. I simply called into question the 2000 number for the often alluded to number of crushed '72 F-body's. I don't buy into multiple 100's of Firebirds & Camaro's being stuck in Norwood Assembly with bolted on front & rear bumpers. That's the only "structural" difference between the two years. Can totally understand GM not wanting to change partially assembled 72's into '73 models, thus crushing them. Dip primed '72 body shells that had set for near 6 months Id bet the higher ups decided running them further was not a good idea. My own bet is GM had Norwood crush what they did for tax ramifications.
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No doubt it was probably a better return as a loss (taxes) than to refurbish into the next model year car.
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In the Firebird case, the fenders would also need swapped for the big brace attachments.
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Found on another website:
The following is from the book “Standard Catalog Of CAMARO 1967- 2002” No Camaros were built from mid-April through mid-October 1972. Management was hit with a 174 day United Auto workers (UAW) union strike at the Norwood factory that closed it starting on April 7. The strike was not settled until September 24, 1972. The work stoppage left 1,100 partially assembled Camaros sitting on the production line. When the strike was over in October, those cars (along with numerous sub-assemblies and parts) had to be scrapped since they did not meet U.S. emissions and safety standards going into effect for model year 1973. GM determined that it would not be cost effective to upgrade the cars. It all comes down to the bottom line, they determined it would cost more to upgrade the cars than it would to take a loss and just scrap them. |
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