[Firedup6975]

My truck actually does carry those things. And still looks pretty good too.

[Chief of the 60's]

Originally Posted by 72projectbird

The new Rams kick ass!

Hell they're outselling the Silverado now.

Until the cam wipes out, then its engine time.

Everything outsells a GM product in every aspect.

[Chief of the 60's]

Originally Posted by GTOnly70

Golly, tell us more about the quality problems with your 1970's Dodges. It's real relevant today.

LMFAO!

[Chief of the 60's]

Originally Posted by Firedup6975

This is exactly what I mean, you won’t see bags of cement, tools, and ladders in that truck lol. Probably not even a sheet of drywall or plywood, or firewood.

That's because the GM trucks are all at the malls and restaurant parking lots.

[455Grandville]

Originally Posted by The Champ

That "Newport" emblem was a sign of things to come....

The "Lean Burn" system might have been good in theory, but none of the techs at the dealership knew how to keep it running.

The power windows worked when they wanted to work, which wasn't very often.

There were other problems, but I can't remember any more specifics.

My brother bought this to replace his small 6 cylinder Ford (can't remember the model) that got piss poor gas mileage after I bought a 1979 Chevy Caprice Classic with a 350/4bbl and was getting much better gas mileage.

Both the Ford and the Dodge failed to match the fuel efficiency, comfort and reliability of the Caprice.

Chrysler dealer support after the sale has always been poor.
The Newport spent more time in the service bay than on the road. They never fixed the chronic stalling where the car often wouldn’t restart.
The dealer was so bad that they lied about fixing problems because they left the tape on over windshield and trim that my grandpa put on to try to stop it from leaking.
The car left my grandparents on the side of the road twice, not easy on elderly people in a rural area before phones.
By 1983 the car was an eyesore that was rusting and falling apart so grandpa had enough and bought a new Parisienne (really, a Caprice). The dealer told him they couldn’t take the Newport on trade as their wholesaler wouldn’t take it as he couldn’t get rid of late 70s and early 80s Chrysler products.
The Pontiac served my grandparents well for years.

[455Grandville]

Originally Posted by Chief of the 60's

Until the cam wipes out, then its engine time.

Everything outsells a GM product in every aspect.

Roller lifters are prone to failing but the 5.7 Hemi has bottom end issues as well.

[Firedup6975]

Originally Posted by Chief of the 60's

That's because the GM trucks are all at the malls and restaurant parking lots.

Tailgate parties who has the best tail lolol did I say that? all I know is I can haul plywood with my tailgate up, and it don’t hang over the side and need to be tied down

Seriously though getting back to my own topic.... I just didn’t understand the whole name change thing with the RAM seeming to be a make now rather than a model. and didn’t realize the change happened a few years ago.

[Sirrotica]

The Ram claim to fame is the diesel engine that the shysler corp. had nothing to do with. Cummins is the best thing that ever happened to dodge, the engine is great. It's too bad it comes packaged in a mediocre cab and chassis, with mediocre drivetrain choices.

Their latest gasoline powerplants are one mistake after another, sub par engineering that falls short of longevity that other brands take for granted. I haven't seen many late model gasoline chrysler products go over 150,000 miles without major mechanical/drivetrain problems. Chrysler techs tell me that any engine that the displacement ends in .7 is undependable. That covers most/ but not all, of their gas engines.

Dodge already has tried their hand at HD trucks, if their latest effort falls short like their first effort did back in the 60s, it will be less than inspiring.

GM didn't even try to make medium duty trucks any longer, they contracted IH/Navistar to build their medium duty trucks. They sold their diesel/transmission division to Penske, then Diamler got interest in Detroit Diesel, so they pretty much have to sell someone else's truck with their emblem on it.

That's what happens when you chase the bottom line of your business, rather than make products that customers want, and can have loyalty to in the future...….

[455Grandville]

Originally Posted by Sirrotica

The Ram claim to fame is the diesel engine that the shysler corp. had nothing to do with. Cummins is the best thing that ever happened to dodge, the engine is great. It's too bad it comes packaged in a mediocre cab and chassis, with mediocre drivetrain choices.

Their latest gasoline powerplants are one mistake after another, sub par engineering that falls short of longevity that other brands take for granted. I haven't seen many late model gasoline chrysler products go over 150,000 miles without major mechanical/drivetrain problems. Chrysler techs tell me that any engine that the displacement ends in .7 is undependable. That covers most/ but not all, of their gas engines.

Dodge already has tried their hand at HD trucks, if their latest effort falls short like their first effort did back in the 60s, it will be less than inspiring.

GM didn't even try to make medium duty trucks any longer, they contracted IH/Navistar to build their medium duty trucks. They sold their diesel/transmission division to Penske, then Diamler got interest in Detroit Diesel, so they pretty much have to sell someone else's truck with their emblem on it.

That's what happens when you chase the bottom line of your business, rather than make products that customers want, and can have loyalty to in the future...….

My cousin has become an expert in replacing bad late model Chrysler engines with sourced good used ones. Once he has them running again he often tells his customers to get rid of them before another expensive bill surfaces.

And to think Chrysler used to have a rep for building tough, long lasting and reliable engines like the slant 6 and the 318.

[Sirrotica]

Originally Posted by 455Grandville

My cousin has become an expert in replacing bad late model Chrysler engines with sourced good used ones. Once he has them running again he often tells his customers to get rid of them before another expensive bill surfaces.

And to think Chrysler used to have a rep for building tough, long lasting and reliable engines like the slant 6 and the 318.

I was just thinking the same thing, the engine would always outlast the car (especially the electrical system), but the car wasn't that good to begin with. Still the engine families you noted were very durable, even with neglected maintenance they still continued to run.

These new engines have really small orifices in the oil system that easily plug up if the oil changes are neglected even a little bit.

The Jeeps had the 4.0 inline 6 that was as durable as the slant six, but they did away with it for a POS 3.7 V6, brilliant move!!

[455Grandville]

Originally Posted by Sirrotica

I was just thinking the same thing, the engine would always outlast the car (especially the electrical system), but the car wasn't that good to begin with. Still the engine families you noted were very durable, even with neglected maintenance they still continued to run.

These new engines have really small orifices in the oil system that easily plug up if the oil changes are neglected even a little bit.

The Jeeps had the 4.0 inline 6 that was as durable as the slant six, but they did away with it for a POS 3.7 V6, brilliant move!!

The engines I hear the worst about are Ford 5.4s, Chrysler 2.7, 3.7, 4.7, 5.7s, their 3.6s, GM ecotech timing chains and their 3.6.

We have two Ford F250s in the shop that both blew up their 6.2s in before 100,000 miles. At first I thought the young driver might have been abusing it but the old man who’s worked in service for us since the 70s has never blown up any of our service trucks. He was driving on the highway and it just kicked a rod out. We keep the oil changed, so I wonder if Ford 6.2s are bad ?

Up until a few years ago we still had a early 90s Ford for backup with 350,000 miles on the 460 that had never been apart or gave us any issues.

We can’t have our trucks down so we’re looking at new one ton Chevys with the new 6.6 Gas as Dodge trucks are full of issues and we’re having issues with the Ford fleet we have.

[Sidponcho]

TUNDRA all the way

[Sirrotica]

Originally Posted by 455Grandville

The engines I hear the worst about are Ford 5.4s, Chrysler 2.7, 3.7, 4.7, 5.7s, their 3.6s, GM ecotech timing chains and their 3.6.

We have two Ford F250s in the shop that both blew up their 6.2s in before 100,000 miles. At first I thought the young driver might have been abusing it but the old man who’s worked in service for us since the 70s has never blown up any of our service trucks. He was driving on the highway and it just kicked a rod out. We keep the oil changed, so I wonder if Ford 6.2s are bad ?

Up until a few years ago we still had a early 90s Ford for backup with 350,000 miles on the 460 that had never been apart or gave us any issues.

We can’t have our trucks down so we’re looking at new one ton Chevys with the new 6.6 Gas as Dodge trucks are full of issues and we’re having issues with the Ford fleet we have.

I have no direct knowledge of 6.2 problems, I'm retired now though. Looking on the net there were a few mentions of just as you described, running down the road and they kicked rods out of the block, at or near 100,000 miles. They said defective oil pumps were the cause. No warning before they kicked the rods out.

Some mention of random defective valve springs too, maybe a bad vendor batch?

[Chief of the 60's]

LOL! My 2011 6.2 Super Duty has almost 180 grand on it and the only thing it ever needed were oil changes and 1 battery. Hell, it still has the FOMOCO fan belt!

[455Grandville]

Originally Posted by Sidponcho

TUNDRA all the way

To bad they don’t offer a standard cab with a 8 foot bed, the double cabs are to damn long.

Originally Posted by Sirrotica

I have no direct knowledge of 6.2 problems, I'm retired now though. Looking on the net there were a few mentions of just as you described, running down the road and they kicked rods out of the block, at or near 100,000 miles. They said defective oil pumps were the cause. No warning before they kicked the rods out.

Some mention of random defective valve springs too, maybe a bad vendor batch?

The dealer is only interested in selling us another engine even though they said these trucks we have could easily go 250,000 miles without issues.

How the hell in this day and age with this technology manage to build such poorly made engines ?

[72projectbird]

Originally Posted by Sidponcho

TUNDRA all the way

lol

[hobbygto65]

I just bought a new Tacoma TRD Off Road. Less than 500 miles an it's already been through the swamp.😎

[455Grandville]

Originally Posted by hobbygto65

I just bought a new Tacoma TRD Off Road. Less than 500 miles an it's already been through the swamp.��

I see a lot of those at the off road parks, how are they for power ?

[MUSLCAH]

Did someone say Ram.....here is ours ....all 330 lbs

[Firedup6975]

Originally Posted by MUSLCAH

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Did someone say Ram.....here is ours ....all 330 lbs

that’s a big boy!