WELCOME!
   

Go Back   PY Online Forums - Bringing the Pontiac Hobby Together > PY Welcomes 2004-06 GTO Owners > 04-06 Engine Tech

04-06 Engine Tech LS engine tech center. Get the most out of your car here.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #21  
Old 06-24-2004, 09:06 PM
David Holmberg's Avatar
David Holmberg David Holmberg is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: Port Charlotte, Florida
Posts: 8,691
Send a message via AIM to David Holmberg
Default

This LS1 motor was built in Louisiana, Dynoed RWHP, and then driven back to Florida with the A/C on and got 25 MPG... Possibly the highest RWHP N/A LS1 in the country...
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Vince.jpg_(Small).jpg
Views:	1983
Size:	34.0 KB
ID:	15426  
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 06-24-2004, 09:06 PM
David Holmberg's Avatar
David Holmberg David Holmberg is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: Port Charlotte, Florida
Posts: 8,691
Send a message via AIM to David Holmberg
Default

This LS1 motor was built in Louisiana, Dynoed RWHP, and then driven back to Florida with the A/C on and got 25 MPG... Possibly the highest RWHP N/A LS1 in the country...
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 06-24-2004, 09:09 PM
David Holmberg's Avatar
David Holmberg David Holmberg is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: Port Charlotte, Florida
Posts: 8,691
Send a message via AIM to David Holmberg
Default

This belongs to a fellow club member, and friend, Vince AKA "DaTruth" on most boards.

He has a two stage NOS system in the works...

Told ya, we have some serious street cars in Florida.
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 06-25-2004, 08:29 AM
Nickv's Avatar
Nickv Nickv is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: manheim, pa, usa
Posts: 1,424
Default

What kind of car is it? Lets see some pics dude.
__________________
"Everyone is entitled to be stupid sometimes, but you're abusing that privilege"

www.musclecarsgalore.com
www.nikivee.com
[www.reverbnation.com/nikivee

1967 Pontiac GTO
1967 Pontiac Grand Prix
1972 Pontiac Lemans Sport Convertible
2015 Dodge Challenger ScatPack 392, 6 speed
2017 Ford Explorer AWD
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 06-27-2004, 10:51 PM
stonebreaker stonebreaker is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Shiloh, IL
Posts: 33
Default

Nah, actually More Performance in NC makes a 750 hp NA LS1. Their 550 hp version is actually emissions-compatible. Check'em out: http://www.moreperformanceinc.com/
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 06-28-2004, 12:44 PM
David Holmberg's Avatar
David Holmberg David Holmberg is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: Port Charlotte, Florida
Posts: 8,691
Send a message via AIM to David Holmberg
Default

But, their numbers are Motor Dyno numbers...

Vince's numbers are actual RWHP numbers as installed with A/C. Plus it's a street car, as it was driven from Louisiana to Tampa Florida.

Almost $31K for the More LS6 Race motor package... Installed and tuned, it will give very similar numbers to Vince’s...
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 06-28-2004, 06:35 PM
Goathead's Avatar
Goathead Goathead is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Galveston, Texas U.S.A.
Posts: 2,317
Send a message via AIM to Goathead
Default

I would rather have the motor Daves dyno #'s reflect. RW's is where it's at...
__________________
SIGPIC]http://forums.performanceyears.com/forums/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=139862&dateline=12616 03096[/SIGPIC]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJrDl3nRNCM


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fvywdocl4GA

http://ultimategto.com/icongraf/65headtitle.jpg
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 07-04-2004, 02:24 PM
stonebreaker stonebreaker is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Shiloh, IL
Posts: 33
Default

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by David Holmberg:
But, their numbers are Motor Dyno numbers...

Vince's numbers are actual RWHP numbers as installed with A/C. Plus it's a street car, as it was driven from Louisiana to Tampa Florida.

Almost $31K for the More LS6 Race motor package... Installed and tuned, it will give very similar numbers to Vince’s... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

So you're saying they made the dyno run with the A/C on?

As far as the reliability of More's package, I originally read about it in GMHTP. The guy wanted a drag motor he could run every weekend and not have to go into for three years. I would imagine the pricetag reflects the reliability.

Anyway, the original post said "possibly the most powerful N/A LS1 in the country". I was merely pointing out he was short a couple hundred horsepower.

As far as similar numbers go, you guys are saying that the drivetrain is going to absorb 200 hp? Exactly how are you going to get rid of 150,000 watts of heat? That's enough power to raise the temperature of one pound of iron 1,321 *F per second. Where are you going to put a cooler that big?
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 07-07-2004, 06:33 AM
Goathead's Avatar
Goathead Goathead is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Galveston, Texas U.S.A.
Posts: 2,317
Send a message via AIM to Goathead
Default



Sorry Champ, my no bottle #'s were better than that before the recent change Eheads and Comp Cam...new #'s should be back soon...

Nah!!! This is butt ugly!!

Scary Nick, but we agree again...
__________________
SIGPIC]http://forums.performanceyears.com/forums/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=139862&dateline=12616 03096[/SIGPIC]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJrDl3nRNCM


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fvywdocl4GA

http://ultimategto.com/icongraf/65headtitle.jpg
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old 07-07-2004, 06:54 AM
Mr_GTO's Avatar
Mr_GTO Mr_GTO is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Sarasota FL
Posts: 3,011
Default

Danny, post up your RWHP numbers then and your combo. Remember, that is at the rear wheels, not on a stand. And it is naturally aspirated.
Reply With Quote
  #31  
Old 07-07-2004, 02:52 PM
Goathead's Avatar
Goathead Goathead is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Galveston, Texas U.S.A.
Posts: 2,317
Send a message via AIM to Goathead
Default

Danny, post up your RWHP numbers then and your combo.

When it is finished, again, I will, just like the last one I posted a while back...

And as far as nitros goes, this man has never used it, and never will. It's like viagra, if you need it, use it, if you don't, be proud of it...and I am proud...
__________________
SIGPIC]http://forums.performanceyears.com/forums/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=139862&dateline=12616 03096[/SIGPIC]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJrDl3nRNCM


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fvywdocl4GA

http://ultimategto.com/icongraf/65headtitle.jpg
Reply With Quote
  #32  
Old 07-07-2004, 03:46 PM
stonebreaker stonebreaker is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Shiloh, IL
Posts: 33
Default

Are they running a single exhaust? Oval tubing, maybe?
Reply With Quote
  #33  
Old 07-07-2004, 06:34 PM
Mr_GTO's Avatar
Mr_GTO Mr_GTO is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Sarasota FL
Posts: 3,011
Default

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Goathead:

When it is finished, again, I will, just like the last one I posted a while back...

And as far as nitros goes, this man has never used it, and never will. It's like viagra, if you need it, use it, if you don't, be proud of it...and I am proud... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

So what were they with the old combo?
Reply With Quote
  #34  
Old 07-08-2004, 12:23 PM
David Holmberg's Avatar
David Holmberg David Holmberg is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: Port Charlotte, Florida
Posts: 8,691
Send a message via AIM to David Holmberg
Default

First off the motor they are selling is making 725HP on a motor dyno. That motor installed in a car, with all accessories will dyno around 600 RWHP. Vince made 560 RWHP for 1/3 of the costs, and it's a STREET combo. The above combo you mention is a RACE combo...

And yes, accessories and driveline will eat up a lot of HP, an average of 14 to 20% depending on the combo...


Reply With Quote
  #35  
Old 07-08-2004, 03:44 PM
stonebreaker stonebreaker is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Shiloh, IL
Posts: 33
Default

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by David Holmberg:
First off the motor they are selling is making 725HP on a motor dyno. That motor installed in a car, with all accessories will dyno around 600 RWHP. Vince made 560 RWHP for 1/3 of the costs, and it's a STREET combo. The above combo you mention is a RACE combo...

And yes, accessories and driveline will eat up a lot of HP, an average of 14 to 20% depending on the combo...


<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

But you can't base the amount of horsepower absorbed by accessories and drivetrain on a percentage. You use the percentage as a rule of thumb, but at 4500 rpm, say, the accessories are going to absorb X amount of horsepower regardless of how powerful the engine is - why would the power steering care if the motor makes 200 hp or 500 hp? Same for the transmission, unless things are slipping and if that's the case you've got bigger problems. An automatic will absorb a little more horsepower with a stronger engine, but not 200 hp worth or you'd boil the fluid in less than a second.
Reply With Quote
  #36  
Old 08-14-2019, 12:23 PM
MichaelFow MichaelFow is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: United Arab Emirates
Posts: 2
Send a message via ICQ to MichaelFow Send a message via AIM to MichaelFow Send a message via Yahoo to MichaelFow Send a message via Skype™ to MichaelFow
Default GTO KN filter

usually after i fill full tank, when it drops 1 bar, i can get around 50km
now after i changed the filter, the bar dropped after around 40km

ill try it out a few times this weekend.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:20 AM.

Featured Vendors


Advertising Info