[Stan Weiss]

Based on what information I could find for the List. http://www.magneticlynx.com/carfor/pont_list.htm Chief was about 80 lbs lighter and his engine was 23 ci smaller.

It is interesting that some people have Tommy racing someone who is not even at the track. LOL

As good as Tommy ran lets not lose sight that in E2 the #1 Q ran 206 MPH. That is a huge amount of HP difference in an 1/8 race.

Stan

[mgarblik]

Originally Posted by Stan Weiss

Based on what information I could find for the List. http://www.magneticlynx.com/carfor/pont_list.htm Chief was about 80 lbs lighter and his engine was 23 ci smaller.

It is interesting that some people have Tommy racing someone who is not even at the track. LOL

As good as Tommy ran lets not lose sight that in E2 the #1 Q ran 206 MPH. That is a huge amount of HP difference in an 1/8 race.

Stan

Congratulations to Tommy and his team for a great showing and doing the Pontiac faithful proud. Every run I was able to listen to had the announcer say he had a Pontiac based engine in the car. They made no mention at all about other engines that I heard. Yes, the #1 qualifier had a big HP advantage, but once you are in the race and going rounds, anything can happen at that point. #1 qualifier could blow the tires off, push to the wall or center line, have a mechanical issue, fall asleep at the tree, and Tommy "could" have won the event. You just never know. I remember clearly our local hero Pat Dakin, being the #1 qualifier in top fuel at the US Nationals because he was down probably 1000 HP from the other cars. He was the only one to make a full pass! You just never know.

[GTOGEORGE]

FWIW......Justin is THE guy (for door cars) he set the bar pretty high, when your no.1 racers will always be going after you.......it’s what drag racers do! My gosh we have 3 sec. door cars, we’ve broken the 6 sec and 250 mph barriers......how cool! That’s what it’s about!


GTO George

[Stan Weiss]

Originally Posted by GTOGEORGE

FWIW......Justin is THE guy (for door cars) he set the bar pretty high, when your no.1 racers will always be going after you.......it’s what drag racers do! My gosh we have 3 sec. door cars, we’ve broken the 6 sec and 250 mph barriers......how cool! That’s what it’s about!


GTO George

That is very cool.

But when you are at a race you have to race the cars that are there. Justin was not at this race and if he was I don't see him being the #1 Q. JMO

Stan

PS Let me add - I don't want to come across as sounding like a Negative Nellie about Tommy's car.

Based on the video of Tommy's car on the hub dyno (3,355 horsepower and 2,933 lb-ft). I see it having the potential to run very low 3.9x @ over 200 MPH in Pro275.

[chiefbigb]

Success can give you a new problem in class racing. Chris Accors is a friend of mine. He pretty much does all of Andy Manson's work. They poured a ton of money and effort for years chasing a championship. When they finally got it the sanctioning body changed body rules on them after they had been running it for 2 seasons. All because the other people in the class complained when they won it all. Big kick in the nuts.

[GTOGEORGE]

Originally Posted by Stan Weiss

That is very cool.

But when you are at a race you have to race the cars that are there. Justin was not at this race and if he was I don't see him being the #1 Q. JMO

Stan

PS Let me add - I don't want to come across as sounding like a Negative Nellie about Tommy's car.

Based on the video of Tommy's car on the hub dyno (3,355 horsepower and 2,933 lb-ft). I see it having the potential to run very low 3.9x @ over 200 MPH in Pro275.

If I racer can stay within a .15 in qualifying he has a chance, it keeps the other guy honest, anything can happen a bad light....lose of traction.....sh_t can happen!



GTO George

[GTO Dan]

I didn’t want to jinx Tommy yesterday so I kept my thoughts to myself. I’m not superstitious, I’m just superstitious. ��

Any who. That GTO was a sight to see. It ran like it was on a rope and it looked effortless. Tommy’s reaction times appeared excellent as well. Tommy was killing it in the right lane, I figured it might be trouble and it was, when he got the left in that round, he spun and the guy in the offer lane killed it.

Damn good day to be a Pontiac guy! That is one of the baddest radial races in the country and Tommy was in a very competitive class. It was cool to watch. I wish him continued success.

[wreckmastr]

[Kevspontiacs@aol.com]

Beautiful car. Makes my junk look like junk Lol

[69Goat1]

Originally Posted by GTOGEORGE

That ties Justin’s 3.994 With the Crow Mod!





GTO George

It is true Justin ran 3.99 in the Crowmod (fiberglass firebird) back when he went Pro Mod racing, BUT he ran another 3.99 @ 188 in Marty P’s old steel 70 vin tag GTO at Bandimere (mile high) on no prep at 2820 lbs on M1 fuel only with no additives...with Eheads and a cast block...



This is straight from Justin Shearer so every time you try to belittle Justin (Chief) by saying he was super light or did it in the old Crowmod only or whatever this post will be there as a reminder that a junk dinosaur set of old Eheads in a steel car with a factory roof line and vin is getting it done like the newest wiz bang stuff out there...

[GTOGEORGE]

Originally Posted by 69Goat1

Justin ran 3.99 in the Crowmod (fiberglass firebird) BUT he ran another 3.99 @ 188 in Marty P’s old steel 70 vin tag GTO at Bandimere (mile high) on no prep at 2820 lbs on M1 fuel only with no additives...with Eheads and a cast block...

Yes you are correct!
IMO......I think Tommy is taking small steps, I don’t think he has unleashed its full potentially yet!



GTO George

[Stan Weiss]

Originally Posted by GTOGEORGE

If I racer can stay within a .15 in qualifying he has a chance, it keeps the other guy honest, anything can happen a bad light....lose of traction.....sh_t can happen!



GTO George

Maybe when running 7.9's / 170 MPHn the 1/4 there is room for that, but when running 190 - 205 MPH in the 1/8 you have to be closer than .15.

Stan

[GTOGEORGE]

Originally Posted by Stan Weiss

Maybe when running 7.9's / 170 MPHn the 1/4 there is room for that, but when running 190 - 205 MPH in the 1/8 you have to be closer than .15.

Stan

You have no idea you’re a non-racer a pro tree is difficult to cut a light an easy to be late one it. I never said you can be within .15 but staying in that range forces the quicker car to stay clean on the pass and catch a good light. Look and the reaction times on the pro tree races!


GTO George

[Stan Weiss]

GTO George,
First go back and read your own post before you say you never said.

Second I don't race now but was racing before you even could drive.

Third you are only a bracket racer and nothing about heads up racing.

Stan

[opeliac]

George, you are wrong on this one...Stan is correct, again.

[PAUL K]

Originally Posted by opeliac

George, you are wrong on this one...Stan is correct, again.

That is common

[GTOGEORGE]

Originally Posted by Stan Weiss

GTO George,
First go back and read your own post before you say you never said.

Second I don't race now but was racing before you even could drive.

Third you are only a bracket racer and nothing about heads up racing.

Stan

Your like that other guy in the pa section YOU don’t know I race a pro tree, I just don’t just run a bracket tree!
I will change my mind a tad .15 is a lot BUT I’ll go with a .12.


GTO George

[opeliac]

Originally Posted by GTOGEORGE

Your like that other guy in the pa section YOU don’t know I race a pro tree, I just don’t just run a bracket tree!
I will change my mind a tad .15 is a lot BUT I’ll go with a .12.


GTO George

If I am in the other lane, and I am .12 faster, the only way you'll ever win is if I break, or spin...

The only thing in that equation is, you could always break, or spin too...

[GTOGEORGE]

Originally Posted by opeliac

If I am in the other lane, and I am .12 faster, the only way you'll ever win is if I break, or spin...

The only thing in that equation is, you could always break, or spin too...

Well that’s good you must be perfect.....nobody else is!



GTO George

[GTOGEORGE]

Seriously id rather be the quicker car BUT staying within .12 theres always a chance.....not hard to miss the tree, I've seen it too many times.

GTO George