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Old 02-10-2020, 05:37 PM
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The opening is not exactly round. Is there a "in the middle" number used when figuring it out for compression ratio calculators ? What is crushed thickness ?
Also, how much needs milled off a set of 80cc High Ports to get 5cc removed ?
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1016 compressed thickness .039 and measures 9.4 cc.

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I use the 1016's with my 80cc High Ports. Jeff Kauffman told me to get to 74cc I would have to mill .030 from the surface.

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I need a gasket dia for the Wallace site. 4.155, 4.25, .039, and 4.188 for gasket dia gets me 10.90 CR. But the gasket dia is just a guess. Anyone have a better number ?

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1016 compressed thickness .039 and measures 9.4 cc.
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I need a gasket dia for the Wallace site. 4.155, 4.25, .039, and 4.188 for gasket dia gets me 10.90 CR. But the gasket dia is just a guess. Anyone have a better number ?
0.039" x 4.327" = 9.398 cc

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Why do you need a "better number " if the 1016 spec's clearly state 9.4 CCs at the crush height number?

If I am not mistaken that gasket at its widest point is 4.230", I can check for you later when I get home if no one chimes in first.

If the info in post 3 is correct then each .005" milled off will knock 1 CC off the chamber volume, which sounds right from what I recall without having my note's at hand.

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Why do you need a "better number " if the 1016 spec's clearly state 9.4 CCs at the crush height number?

If I am not mistaken that gasket at its widest point is 4.230", I can check for you later when I get home if no one chimes in first.

If the info in post 3 is correct then each .005" milled off will knock 1 CC off the chamber volume, which sounds right from what I recall without having my note's at hand.
Simply to use the Wallace calculator. They ask for it in gasket dia, not the cc of the crushed gasket. Its what I use. I could look up the formula for using the gasket cc. Or maybe someone could post it.

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Gasket volume formula is (bore ÷ 2)2 x 3.1416 x gasket thickness x 16.387

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I need a gasket dia for the Wallace site. 4.155, 4.25, .039, and 4.188 for gasket dia gets me 10.90 CR. But the gasket dia is just a guess. Anyone have a better number ?
4.300 on a 1016.

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Gasket volume formula is (bore ÷ 2)2 x 3.1416 x gasket thickness x 16.387

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Looking for total formula for CR with the 9.4 gasket cc given here. 4.155 bore, 4.25 stroke, 80cc head with a 1016.

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4.300 on a 1016.

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Wallace gets me 10.85 CR with that number.

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You need deck height and valve relief cc also, i like the classical pontiac calculator personally
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How To Calculate Engine Compression Ratio And Displacement


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The Wallace site formula as many others do assumes a round Bore head gasket, and both the 1016 and the 8518 are not, which makes there CC volume bigger.
Both of these gaskets have two scallops in each Bore for use with the pre mid 1967 valve inclination angle of the 326, 389 and 421 motors.

I checked a used 8518 head gasket last night and it's 4.380" at its widest rounded points across its center' so my 4.230" number I posted yesterday seems to be wrong, atleast until I dig out my 1016 gasket to check later.

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If dragncar was smart, he'd put zero in for head gasket thickness, then add 9.4cc to his chamber size.

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I have my own calculator in excel if anyone wants it, PM your email.

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Thanks for all the posts of folks just trying to help. If I really wanted to think about it I would have looked it up but I asked you fine folks.

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What is wrong with you ? Simple positive thread and you want to name call. You and your buddy just can not help themselves I guess.
When I try and play nice you knobs want to start something.

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