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About two years ago, we picked up a 79 Trans Am to work on with my son who was 17 at the time. A previous owner started a restoration, but it stalled, and a friend bought it. It sat in his trailer for a couple years until I mentioned to him that we were looking for a project. Here it is in his trailer.
It's a true Y84 car sans the original 403 and automatic transmission. It's completely rust free and no sign of any collision damage, so nice starting point. It's also a non t-top car, which my son prefers because he plans to do autocross and other track activities with it. Our original plan was to restore it on a budget with updated engine, driveline, suspension, brakes, etc. We're mostly holding to the plan, except for the budget part. It will take a few posts to catch up to where we are on the project now. Here's the car, and everything that came with it, at home in our shop.
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Oh cool project pops...what you going to do for power
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Esquire '74 T/A 455 Y-code SD clone previously on Dawson's Creek: '74 T/A 400 '81 AMC SX/4 '69 FB 350 |
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I would have loved for him to run something like the aluminum 535 that's in my '70 Formula. But given the budget and the fact that my son doesn't have the same brand loyalty sensibilities as me, the answer seemed obvious...
I found this cheap high milage LQ4 locally. It ran great, so I had planned to clean it up and drop it in. But I just couldn't leave well enough alone and had it rebuilt with quality parts...forged bottom end, 4" stroke, healthy cam, etc. Should be a blast to drive.
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"If the best Mustang is the Camaro, the best Camaro is actually the Firebird" David Zenlea |
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Prolly lighter for autocross at least...
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Esquire '74 T/A 455 Y-code SD clone previously on Dawson's Creek: '74 T/A 400 '81 AMC SX/4 '69 FB 350 |
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That LQ4 is gonna rip in that car. I just dynoed a cam only LQ4 in my 78 Vette, and it made 372 to the wheels, and that's with a smallish camshaft, stock heads, and mid length headers.
Looks like an awesome project!
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"Those poor souls have made the fatal mistake of surrounding us. Now we can fire in any direction" 1970 Trans Am RAIII 4 speed 1971 Trans Am 5.3 LM7 1977 Trans Am W72 Y82 1987 Grand National |
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The car came with the Custom Cloth Interior in Camel. We're going back to Camel Custom Interior, but torn on whether to go with the cloth or vinyl for the seats.
My son's first project on the car involved welding up the holes where the body side moldings were attached. His first major project involved installing the mini-tubs (so he can run 335 30 18s). It probably took him 30 or so hours.
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"If the best Mustang is the Camaro, the best Camaro is actually the Firebird" David Zenlea |
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The Camel Lombardy cloth & hobnail (trim 62X) interior is cooler to the touch in the hot summer than vinyl buckets. Special ordered my '80 SE w the 62X camel hobnail interior after driving my Dads '79 403 T/A Solar gold/62X interior.
During the late 70's, i also drove over a dozen '77-79 Birds & Camaro Z28's as GMAC repo's. Most of the latter had all vinyl interiors, not very comfortable in shorts in the Summer.
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"If the best Mustang is the Camaro, the best Camaro is actually the Firebird" David Zenlea |
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Dome lights are easy, deluxe type are probably the same. Wiring retainers could be hard red or clip over clear/white and follow the roof holes. The harness runs through to the trunk where it piggybacks onto the trunk harness/main harness to dash connector.
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Thank you, the photo is exactly what I was looking for. I'm using an American Autowire classic update kit, and some of the harnesses are set up differently than OEM, but trying to do things correctly where I can.
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"If the best Mustang is the Camaro, the best Camaro is actually the Firebird" David Zenlea |
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After the mini tubs were installed, we hauled the car to a friend's place. He volunteered to help us prep and paint it. The original plan was to get it done quickly (in a couple weekends), but he convinced us that given how nice the body is, it would be worth taking our time and doing it right. It ended up taking 9 full months. Lots of weekends spent sanding, but it was a great experience for us...my son now knows what it takes to do this type of work. It did turn out really nice. We used single stage so the black is really deep.
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"If the best Mustang is the Camaro, the best Camaro is actually the Firebird" David Zenlea |
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We had the subframe powder coated. When it came back we installed solid full height subframe bushings from Speedtech, and Ridetech's full coilover front suspension.
We started to install the Ridetech 4-link coilover suspension. But after seeing what this involved, we decided to run the fuel and brake lines first. We had custom sized hard lines made which we flared and installed tube nuts (3/8 fuel, 3/8 return, 3/16 brake). Went with a 9", Richmond 3rd member, 3.25 gears, Powertrax Grip Pro differential. Had the differential housing made with Torino ends, and factory width so that we could run rear wheels without a deep dish.
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"If the best Mustang is the Camaro, the best Camaro is actually the Firebird" David Zenlea |
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The tank is from Tanks Inc. We went with a Walbro 340lph turbine style pump, which is compatible with the PWM fuel controller which we plan to use.
We went with 14" Wildwood AERO6 front brakes. Can also see the Ridetech TruTurn and Borgeson 12.7:1 steering box installed. We're going with custom front sway bar to accommodate 295 front tires. In the rear, 13" Superlite with electronic parking brake. Test fitted the 408. Used Holley engine swap mounts.
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"If the best Mustang is the Camaro, the best Camaro is actually the Firebird" David Zenlea |
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no, not much budget there...
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Nice!
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Skip Fix 1978 Trans Am original owner 10.99 @ 124 pump gas 455 E heads, NO Bird ever! 1981 Black SE Trans Am stockish 6X 400ci, turbo 301 on a stand 1965 GTO 4 barrel 3 speed project 2004 GTO Pulse Red stock motor computer tune 13.43@103.4-sold 1964 Impala SS 409/470ci 600 HP stroker project 1979 Camaro IAII Edelbrock head 500" 695 HP 10.33@132 3595lbs 1964 Corvette Coupe 327 4 speed |
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Which headliner kit did u go?
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Esquire '74 T/A 455 Y-code SD clone previously on Dawson's Creek: '74 T/A 400 '81 AMC SX/4 '69 FB 350 |
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One piece plastic with perforated vinyl attached from Classic Industries (HLB21)...not sure if it's PUI or ACME.
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"If the best Mustang is the Camaro, the best Camaro is actually the Firebird" David Zenlea |
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I like the powdercoated black rotors, much cleaner, no dust...
![]() The park brake is neat, would Americans bother with it being used?! I wonder if it can wired into the security system, like an over ride if triggered and not just a simple release and roll away. |
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Wildwood e-coats their rotors for corrosion resistance. It will wear off as the pads bed in.
We went with the electronic parking brake primarily to avoid having to deal with cable routing challenges (tucked up exhaust, suspension modifications, subframe connectors, etc.). However, there is a lot of wiring and a controller, so not sure whether this will simplify things.
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"If the best Mustang is the Camaro, the best Camaro is actually the Firebird" David Zenlea |
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Beautiful build! Love the attention to detail
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"Those poor souls have made the fatal mistake of surrounding us. Now we can fire in any direction" 1970 Trans Am RAIII 4 speed 1971 Trans Am 5.3 LM7 1977 Trans Am W72 Y82 1987 Grand National |
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