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Old 11-18-2019, 09:07 PM
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Default Low VIN '70 Bird on eBay

This one has the lowest VIN of any I've ever seen. Base Bird, built 12C 1969. Same week as the other low VIN cars I've seen, so that must have been the pilot production week.

The car is in very rough shape...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1970-Pontia...sAAOSwSeVd0vhk

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Old 11-18-2019, 10:39 PM
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Wow....that's cool!

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the low build is neat, but there's not much there to start off with;
is that a fan shroud for an inline six?

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Don't know what that shroud is?
Off some other brand of car?

There is nothing left of the original car there really?
About everything removable is removed?

Interesting to see the PHS on that one.



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Cool low production for sure but 10k? What the...... It's a basket full of "A whole lot of need"

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Nothing special about that one other than the very early build..

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Wonder what material the tail panel is made from if original?

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Should be metal if original to the car.

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I’m confused- what am I not seeing? I agree 10k is high, but I don’t know that I would say it’s out of this world high for a running and driving 70-73? It is pretty beat up but I would think 5k would be light?

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This one is # 223870N600035 Both these early cars are 6 cylinder cars. ( based on the Core support in the Ebay car) Car 00035 still retains its original driveline, and metal tail panel.
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This one is # 223870N600035 Both these early cars are 6 cylinder cars. ( based on the Core support in the Ebay car) Car 00035 still retains its original driveline, and metal tail panel.
Ebay car VIN is 223870N100013

The bold number one just to the right of the "N" denotes the car was born an eight cylinder.

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Ah, yes, that I did miss.

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Wish people would stop calling everything a clone, especially when clearly not. Sure, it has one or two features that were found on a TA, hooray. You don't call a TA with plain hood an Esprit clone, it's a TA that is still in search of a replacement hood, or whatever. It's not a selling point, it's just a 50 year old vehicle with mismatched details. I'd have called it a Formula clone before a TA since the hood is more prominent than a few fender bits. Seen a lot worse get restored, or saved rather.

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Fiberglass. I asked


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