[george kujanski]

I like the model S and X but this is just to fugly.

George

[Judge273]

Originally Posted by The Champ

That truck starts at $69,900.

As I stated above, the $39,900 truck only has a 250 mile range and a 7500 pound towing capacity.

We're probably 5 years away (or more - if ever) from Tesla selling the base truck at $39,900. The Model 3 was supposed to be a $35,000 car (less $7500 tax credit) when shown in the spring of 2016. To date - 3.5 years later, they have yet to build one.

I doubt that a $35,000 Model 3 will ever be sold.

The lowest price Model 3 available right now is $38,990 - and as of Jan 1 will no longer have any tax credit available at all.

I will add that where I live those electric car outlets are going in a large rate. Electric cars are everywhere and most are Teslas.

So the car that most folks thought would cost them a net of $27,500 back in 2016 - will never happen.

You can disagree all you want with me or the 200k that want it. Their money and you can do what you want with yours including me.

[tripower]

I'm sure there were at least 200K people buying into Elon's 90% autonomous car back in 2013, which was due in 2016.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...uced-2016.html

[johnta1]

The Model 3 was supposed to be a $35,000 car (less $7500 tax credit) when shown in the spring of 2016. To date - 3.5 years later, they have yet to build one.

Model 3 started in 2017 and have over 190,000 sold out there?

[johnta1]

I'm sure there were at least 200K people buying into Elon's 90% autonomous car back in 2013, which was due in 2016.

As your link explained, most problems is getting regulatory and safety rules passed by the states. (and other countries)

I think a lot of the cars are capable, software just not 'turned on' yet?

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by johnta1

Model 3 started in 2017 and have over 190,000 sold out there?

There are plenty of the Model 3 cars on the road, I see them daily. However, I think what he's saying is they haven't sold any for the $35k price that was initially promised.

[Judge273]

I will say as a city building inspector the number of electric car outlets inspections are on the rise. As well as the number of Tesla car around town.

I can see this trend continuing.

[242177P]

How many of these preorders are speculation? There are people who will pay a premium to be 'first'. I guarantee that if concerts offered refundable deposits, ticket scalpers would gobble up EVERY seat that's available. And environmentalists are quick to support a champion of their cause. These 200K 'orders' could literally evaporate overnight, as not a single one of them has actually committed to buying anything.

Talk about counting your chickens before they've hatched.

[Boogy]

Reminds me of that kid without a dad or one who didn't give a flying f when asked for help designing his Pinewood Derby Car.

[Chris65LeMans]

Originally Posted by Boogy

Reminds me of that kid without a dad or one who didn't give a flying f when asked for help designing his Pinewood Derby Car.

That’s not a terrible design for a pinewood derby car. When I was in the scouts, some kid had won a few years in a row with a wedge. Of course, he was 2nd place behind me my first year, and third place behind me and my brother the next. My son’s championship car was a much more sophisticated design. There was at least one wedge in the finals, but it lost big.

My point is, Elon’s design was modern, winning and cutting edge at one time - but that was 40 years ago. (Like the Lamborghini Countach.)

[The Champ]

Originally Posted by Judge273

You can disagree all you want with me or the 200k that want it. Their money and you can do what you want with yours including me.

Judge

I'm not saying that you shouldn't be interested in a $40,000 truck with all those capabilities.

I was just pointing out that the $40,000 truck doesn't have the range or towing capacity. That is the $69,900 version. For $40,000 you will get a truck with half the range and towing capacity - when, where and if ever Elon Musk ever decides to build it.

Musk has a history of over promising and under delivering.

[The Champ]

Originally Posted by johnta1

Model 3 started in 2017 and have over 190,000 sold out there?

When they started selling Model 3's back in 2017 (with the full tax credit available), the average selling price was around $60,000 - for a car that was promoted in 2016 as a $35,000 car.

That's what 500,000 people paid a $1,000 deposit for. Musk claimed that by the end of 2017 he'd be building 10,000 Model 3's per week (that's 520,000 per year).

It's nearly the end of 2019 and as you point out he's still only sold 190,000 Model 3's.

January 1, 2019 the tax credit dropped to $3750. On July 1, 2019 it dropped to $1750. January 1, 2020 it totally gone.

And the cheapest Model 3 you can order today is $38,990 (they don't prebuild any of the base models).

[dhutton]

This pretty much sums it up...

[getmygoat]

The whole thing with this truck is to make it stand out. There are so many products out there, you have to "burn through" all the noise and establish an awareness in the public's mind of your product. This truck design certainly does it. Its non-conventional, but somehow I think once it starts getting out there, it will be setting the standard others will follow. Just like the model S. That car has been out 7 years and there is still nothing that close. Say what you want - Musk is a leader, he doesn't take cues from anyone, and so far, its working.

[Sirrotica]

Breaking those 2 windows has gotten Tesla free publicity on all media for a week 24/7. I've seen that clip probably 15 times, dumb like a fox...……….

[Tenney]

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/28/elon...n-twitter.html

[433lemans]

Well, on the upside, like a modern stealth fighter, bomber, ship, etc., maybe these things are radar proof! Think about it. lol

[The Champ]

Originally Posted by Tenney

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/28/elon...n-twitter.html

I think the Lego version has more appeal than the Tesla....

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

The idea is good, the revealed concept design is just really really bad.
okay Terrible

It already looks outdated.
Looks like something that was attempting a futuristic design - in the 1970's.
Or homebuilt in the garage with readily available scraps and an S-10 chassis.

Power to the People if they want it

[The Champ]

When Tesla unveiled the Cybertruck last month, the automaker announced three different versions: Single Motor RWD, Dual Motor AWD, and Tri Motor AWD.

At the time, they said that the two less expensive versions, which are going to start at $39,900 and $49,900, are coming in “late 2021,” while the more expensive version with more motors and bigger battery pack is going to be available in “late 2022.”

Well it didn't take Musk long to throw the $39,900 Cybertruck under the bus...

In less than 30 days, Musk realized that he can't build a $39,900 truck, just like he couldn't build a $35,000 Model 3.

But, shocker here, the MOST expensive Cybertruck - the $69,900 version, will hit production in 2021...

This is the new production schedule:

Single Motor RWD: “Fully refundable. You will be able to complete your configuration as production nears in late 2021. Single Motor RWD production is expected to begin in late 2022.”

Dual Motor AWD: “Fully refundable. You will be able to complete your configuration as production nears in late 2021. Dual Motor AWD production is expected in late 2021.”

Tri Motor AWD: “Fully refundable. You will be able to complete your configuration as production nears in late 2021. Tri Motor AWD production is expected in late 2021.”

Those peons that want a $39,900 Cybertruck can wait...

BTW - it was the $69,900 Tri Motor AWD that was pulling that 2WD F150...