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#181
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You find out what went wrong with the nitrous system when the rod went through your block?
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#182
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Even if you go to KREs website and look up their engines they do not even offer a NA Warp engine. Their "race High Port engines make 1250 HP but have sheet metal, 2 x 4s and a spray kit. Their heads up High Port engines, NA have the sheet metal 2x4s and make 1075 HP. It looks like they are pushing the Warp head for boost. |
#183
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Ha, Ha, have any picks of those Scat rods you tried to make big power with ? Still in one piece ?
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#184
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You need to live stream your dyno session with your new engine. You know, to prove it can make it off the dyno.
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#185
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So all pissing matches between you and slowbird aside, just because you were buying a set of bad ass e-heads for 3800 doesnt mean anyone can. Or that it is repeatable for 3800. I'm not going to ask how much mike had in them because any response couldnt be verified but I would bet it was way more than 3800. I'm sure the cost was up there comparatively to others making that much power. I bought my heads, intake, 2 sets of piston, cam, lifters, shaft rockers and other misc items for 4,000. But that doesnt mean thats all it cost to buy again. I would assume everything i got would be well over 10,000 to duplicate.
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#186
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Rick Johnson is building a Warp 6 N/A engine right now.There are other ones out there.Fact is it made I think like 2.6 HP per CI YEARS ago and backed it up at the strip.I think Stan has it listed on his top quickest pontiacs.Tom
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#187
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I am not sure now who gave me those numbers. I did see the car in 2013 run some very low 8.0x's @ ATCO. Stan
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#188
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Never owned Scat rods, more fake news from you.
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#189
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I bought another set of high end Gabby E heads with fresh springs Ti valves(both) guides and valve job for the same price. Probably better for me since Mikes heads were about 55ccs. Heads I bought are 63ccs and I have to run a 32cc dish. There is another set of 400cfm E heads with Ti valves that were for sale for the same price. (GTO KID?) So they are out there. And it did not have anything to do with my E heads. He made less with better heads and he does not like it. What I said is true about all those guys not beating Mikes number with "better" stuff. |
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Its the fact that no High Port engine had beat his number, nor RAV head that is the impressive part. Its a freaking aluminum RAIV head. The New LS chambered E head is better but doubt anyone will try what he did. Its not apples to apples if you are comparing his E head engine to anything other than a E head engine. And his was the best, no one else was even close. Thats the point. |
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It's like my dad saying he has the fastest tri-power might be true but doesnt really amount to much when no one else has put effort into beating him. |
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#193
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No lets be realistic. Why with better heads available that will make more HP than "E" heads (sorry Paul) would anyone choice to use "E" heads for this type of build?
Stan
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I was really hoping to see what could be done with 480cfm High Ports and a sheet metal with 2 x 4s on top. Sad deal, hope his boys are doing well. |
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YAWN........
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The most power that will ever be made NA with the Pontiac platform can be summed-up pretty easily, in no particular order.
1. Size of budget 2. Determination 3. Desire to be the best 4. Best technology and research available 5. Industry connections 6. Buy-in by a proven winner in race engine development/builder 7. Engine owner's personal skill set I can't disagree that Mike's accomplishments may not be surpassed by someone using old design E-heads. That would violate my #4 item. I don't think there is any argument that E-heads are the "best available" period. They may be the "best available at a given price point", that could be argued, I guess. From a pure design standpoint, I don't know if the original E-heads were ever the "best available", because the Larry Wenzler heads were damn good performers. But they had their own set of issues mostly due to the difficulties of one at a time production. It's reasonable to assume someday, every record will fall. |
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I agree.
If one just 'copies' what others did, no advancements will happen. People like Scott Rex, John Langer, Jack Gaydosh, and many others don't rely on what other people say. They try other things, experiment, test, etc to get where they are. Just my 2 cents.
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I should add that would be for ones who want the best.
Myself and the majority of others ( I imagine) just want a great engine that will last and be reliable. I do try and make it run at the best for what it has in it, though. There are many things that should be done that can wring out more power. (or think of it as many things that can LOSE HP if not done correctly)
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John Wallace - johnta1 Pontiac Power RULES !!! www.wallaceracing.com Winner of Top Class at Pontiac Nationals, 2004 Cordova Winner of Quick 16 At Ames 2004 Pontiac Tripower Nats KRE's MR-1 - 1st 5 second Pontiac block ever! "Every man has a right to his own opinion, but no man has a right to be wrong in his facts." "People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid." – Socrates |
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#199
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Those guys pretty much did the R&D on the Tiger. You think if they did not spend all that time and money we would have the Tiger 2 ? I don't.
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#200
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What's the difference between the Tiger and the Tiger2? Which one of those guys runs Tiger2?
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