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Old 07-26-2015, 08:40 PM
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I think it's more than teens putting wings, etc. - it's lowest-common denominator thinking. The same people who add SS badges to everything, or paint a Mopar purple or red. A large percentage of people do this, and that's their right, but then we are the ones who have to deal with it when cruising eBay or Barrett-Jackson. I've seen many pedigreed cars that have been "ruined" by a zealous owner who wants to add every do-dad.

But we're geeks in comparison, and there's room for plenty of folks in the hobby, so this kind of behavior will continue.

Kinda on a tangent, I know of an ultra-rare 1967 Plymouth Belvedere I Hemi car that's one of a handful built, as the Hemi generally was restricted to the GTX that year. Some guy had an original one and decided to tub it. Why not get a /6 Belvedere and modify that? Well, it was his car, and he did what he wanted.

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you will never understand that mentality,,,neither will I nor half the people here

I have the same issue..i've seen beautiful (add brand here) and they where rust free, and very nice cars, and they got hacked and tubbed..and the floor boards and trunk where mint....they cut the floors out from the toe boards to the back bumper..then...they cut the perfect rust free 1/4s up to stretch the wheel openings...why not start with a rusty turd no one cares about..

instead, lets cut up the nicest car we can...oh..its a hemi? cool...lets really cut it up.....and then the insult...they never finish them....they ruin them..then loose interest...and they change their minds...and they get parted..and scrapped....or change hands 5 times and never get finished...seen it many many times

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Three of the Post cars were WW5.One Built at each Plant.
Yessir!

3 WW5 post coupes and just 10 total LS5-equipped 1972 GTO post coupes, 3 M22 cars and 7 M40s. Unfortunately, as with all WW5 cars, I don't have the M22/M40 breakdown for the three post WW5 cars at hand.

Rarer still - but not as desirable - a total of 5 L75 1972 GTO post coupes were built, all M40 cars of course.

EDIT: Credit Fred Simmonds for these numbers.

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the data plate reads like this

ST 72 23537 A 00781 BDY
TR 272 A 5118 4 65 A PNT
09B 11 011668 180126


The weird thing in the last line after the 09B
the 11 is stamped and with a much bigger
and different font.

Hope this helps.
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Old 07-27-2015, 07:59 PM
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Thank you Mike for confirming. I believe I remember that particular WW5 driving around in Norman OK in the early 90's. It's the only Sundance orange '72 455 HO that I vividly remember seeing the 455 HO decal under the GTO decal on the right rear trunk.

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Here's a WW5 up for sale:

http://detroit.craigslist.org/mcb/cto/5130402812.html

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The seller has an ad here on PY as well . . . NICE WW5!

http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...d.php?t=777355

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I think that car's spoiler was dealer-installed.

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It's hard for me to read that Car Shipping Record but it looks like they were charged $134 for the LS5 engine option. It is then listed again as part of the WW5 option. What is up with that?

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I think that car's spoiler was dealer-installed.
There were over the counter spoilers available - I have held one in my hands that was still in the box!

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It's hard for me to read that Car Shipping Record but it looks like they were charged $134 for the LS5 engine option. It is then listed again as part of the WW5 option. What is up with that?
Well duh, they were making up for not charging out the 455HO engine on Jody's (formerly PB's) car.

Sheesh . . .

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I think that car's spoiler was dealer-installed.
Now that you bring that up, seems that I do recall hearing something to that effect.

I DO know that Skwirblies used to claim it was factory-installed, but has since been proven that it was an over-the-counter part.

Thanks for correcting me, Diego.

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Tried to enlarge and enhance that invoice some.
That's a nice bunch of options on a great car. I'm thinking that the unreadable line right on the crease is the PO5 Honeycomb Wheels option (478) for $123.00.

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If you went to the PY (Max Performance) link, you get a clearer picture.
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If you went to the PY (Max Performance) link, you get a clearer picture.
Wow - yes indeed Pontiac billed for the 455HO twice on that shipping record!

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Old 07-29-2015, 10:36 PM
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the data plate reads like this

ST 72 23537 A 00781 BDY
TR 272 A 5118 4 65 A PNT
09B 11 011668 180126


The weird thing in the last line after the 09B
the 11 is stamped and with a much bigger
and different font.

Hope this helps.
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Thanks for that good info Mike.
What I'm loosely referring to as a body number is really more of a job number.
It follows the build from start to finish and is listed on the Bsheet as well as trim tag.
011668 on your 09B vs. 269517 on an 04D example.

18 0126 would also be listed on Bsheet.
18 is supposed to be the build sequence for that day or shift.
0126 supposedly the body buck carrier jig number.
The 04D example has number 74 0665.

00781 is your actual Lemans Hdtp Body #
04D is # 19326

A51 is bucket seats
18 might be Console
4 might be Vinyl Top

The stamped 11 , idunno
11 is also a code for White Paint, but can't think of anything right off hand that would need to be cut in with white paint on your car.
It meant something to somebody though.
And your car had a lot of White parts.

04D car had no vinyl top, no 4, and no stamped numbers.


Yours again :
ST 72 23537 A 00781 BDY
TR 272 A 5118 4 65 A PNT
09B 11 011668 180126


Quezal Gold:
ST 72 - 23537 A 19326 BDY
TR 273 A5118 53 53 PNT
04D 269517 740655

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If they are, that's too bad.

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Is this RK offering one of the WW5 '72's?

It that's a WW5, it's currently wearing the wrong tennies. Those are 14" 'stones, not G60s.

Gorgeous car in that one pic, though!

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Old 08-10-2015, 11:12 PM
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Did anyone from here buy IndianGiver's Sundance WW5 on eBay ?
Seemed well bought for around 3500 iirc.
Could probably have bid higher with better pics outdoors or less cramped conditions.

Have a feeling it might have been better shape overall than some of the pics made it out to be. Could also be wrong too.
Definitely had front and rear window channel rust from vinyl top syndrome though.

Did the buyer follow through on it, IndianGiver ?

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