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#21
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Definitely looks like an air filter problem for T/A owners but still intriguing.
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1978 Black & Gold T/A [complete 70 Ram Air III (carb to pan) PQ and 12 bolt], fully loaded, deluxe, WS6, T-Top car - 1972 Formula 455HO Ram Air numbers matching Julep Green - 1971 T/A 455, 320 CFM Eheads, RP cam, Doug's headers, Fuel injection, TKX 5 Spd. 12 Bolt 3.73, 4 wheel disc. All A/C cars |
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-1967 GTO HO Restomod. PKMM 433ci, SilverSport T56 Magnum 6spd, Moser 9", SC&C and a bunch of other pro touring goodies - Build Thread http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...615847&page=23 |
#23
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It's the same height as a Qjet. Fits on a spread bore intake with no adaptor, as long as it's the same fore and aft I'm thinking all good. But those fuel rails are definitely going to interfere with a stock air filter base. I wish I could get my hands on a throttle body to see if I could get it to work. If I could I would be all over that thing! In a NY second!
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1978 Black & Gold T/A [complete 70 Ram Air III (carb to pan) PQ and 12 bolt], fully loaded, deluxe, WS6, T-Top car - 1972 Formula 455HO Ram Air numbers matching Julep Green - 1971 T/A 455, 320 CFM Eheads, RP cam, Doug's headers, Fuel injection, TKX 5 Spd. 12 Bolt 3.73, 4 wheel disc. All A/C cars |
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71 Formula 433, Splayed cap 400 block, 4" stroke Scat forged crank, 6.8 Eagle rods, custom Autotec pistons. SD 295 KRE D ports, Old faithful hybrid roller, Torker II, Holley Sniper Stealth, Tribal Tubes, TKO 600, 3.73 Eaton posi. |
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If I thought I could pull it off I wouldn't mind buying an aftermarket A/F base and alter it.
Steve did you watch the videos? Pretty cool for a thousand bucks.
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1978 Black & Gold T/A [complete 70 Ram Air III (carb to pan) PQ and 12 bolt], fully loaded, deluxe, WS6, T-Top car - 1972 Formula 455HO Ram Air numbers matching Julep Green - 1971 T/A 455, 320 CFM Eheads, RP cam, Doug's headers, Fuel injection, TKX 5 Spd. 12 Bolt 3.73, 4 wheel disc. All A/C cars |
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I watched the videos. I spun a rod bearing driving my car like I stole it a few weeks ago and have my hands full with the repair otherwise I would have ordered a Terminator by now. Glad I waited as this is a very viable alternative if it works as promised and they proved a decent level of support. I read the instructions and I have questions about the extent of control you actually have over the timing with this unit.
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71 Formula 433, Splayed cap 400 block, 4" stroke Scat forged crank, 6.8 Eagle rods, custom Autotec pistons. SD 295 KRE D ports, Old faithful hybrid roller, Torker II, Holley Sniper Stealth, Tribal Tubes, TKO 600, 3.73 Eaton posi. |
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Sorry about the rod bearing....are you using factory rods? I was wondering about the timing also. I would buy a ready to run dist. Right now I run an HEI, but it doesn't say where the tach wire from the tach would go.
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1978 Black & Gold T/A [complete 70 Ram Air III (carb to pan) PQ and 12 bolt], fully loaded, deluxe, WS6, T-Top car - 1972 Formula 455HO Ram Air numbers matching Julep Green - 1971 T/A 455, 320 CFM Eheads, RP cam, Doug's headers, Fuel injection, TKX 5 Spd. 12 Bolt 3.73, 4 wheel disc. All A/C cars |
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Heck no, I have Scat H-beams. With the new heads, it revs a lot more than it did and I can say a 455 can turn 7000 rpm without a rev limiter..........once! Ordered a MSD 6AL2 to prevent that from happening again.
I think in the tech section they have instructions which include very clear wiring diagrams and as I recall, there is one for a HEI. My issue is that it appears you can only set the initial timing. This would imply that there is a preset curve but I don't see any mention of an ability to adjust the curve in the instructions.
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71 Formula 433, Splayed cap 400 block, 4" stroke Scat forged crank, 6.8 Eagle rods, custom Autotec pistons. SD 295 KRE D ports, Old faithful hybrid roller, Torker II, Holley Sniper Stealth, Tribal Tubes, TKO 600, 3.73 Eaton posi. |
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Wow! That's disappointing... I would think Scats should handle 7000. Drag though...no pun intended
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1978 Black & Gold T/A [complete 70 Ram Air III (carb to pan) PQ and 12 bolt], fully loaded, deluxe, WS6, T-Top car - 1972 Formula 455HO Ram Air numbers matching Julep Green - 1971 T/A 455, 320 CFM Eheads, RP cam, Doug's headers, Fuel injection, TKX 5 Spd. 12 Bolt 3.73, 4 wheel disc. All A/C cars |
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Pretty sure the rods are fine, they are getting resized and fresh ARPs for good measure. Looks like a lack of oil.
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71 Formula 433, Splayed cap 400 block, 4" stroke Scat forged crank, 6.8 Eagle rods, custom Autotec pistons. SD 295 KRE D ports, Old faithful hybrid roller, Torker II, Holley Sniper Stealth, Tribal Tubes, TKO 600, 3.73 Eaton posi. |
#31
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I run the Melling 80lb. pump and straight 30 Pennzoil. Run plenty of NOS through it. No issues. About 40,000 since rebuild. The 30 wt. keeps oil pressure at bay.
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1978 Black & Gold T/A [complete 70 Ram Air III (carb to pan) PQ and 12 bolt], fully loaded, deluxe, WS6, T-Top car - 1972 Formula 455HO Ram Air numbers matching Julep Green - 1971 T/A 455, 320 CFM Eheads, RP cam, Doug's headers, Fuel injection, TKX 5 Spd. 12 Bolt 3.73, 4 wheel disc. All A/C cars |
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Following this. EFI is on my list to be able to enjoy my wagon more often.
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Darin '64 Bonneville Wagon (sold) 69 Lemans-All motor (sold) 9.81 @ 136.39MPH |
#33
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I like the idea of not having to whack my head under a hood trying to dial in timing, or getting burned on a hose/pipe while tuning, etc.
This setup ideally allows computer timing and fuel curves, and has the scalability to add boost. All of the features built in saves hundreds on extra add ons: fuel pressure regulator for boost, external timing controller like MSD box, wide band AF meter, etc. Game changer IMO. I hope it works out, even if for nothing else to convince the "other guys" in the EFI biz to step up what they put on the table, and for how much.
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"...ridge reamer and ring compressor? Do they have tools like that?" |
#34
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I've been looking @ the Edelbrock system with the sump fuel kit.Cheapest I found was about $2400.
Any thoughts on a comparison of the two ?
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1967 GTO Sport Coupe 49,xxx orig.miles Champagne/Parchment 30 Original Owner Ordered PHS Documented Factory Options Second Owner |
#35
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How about turbulence issues with our stock iron spread bored intakes? If this would work on the factory intake and I could adapt my ram air air cleaner I'd be interested to try this. I run a 1/4" base plate gasket and have used up to a 1/4" spacer on the air filter housing to clear a previous choke problem. So if I placed the EFI body on the iron intake with a minimal gasket and used the 1/2" spacer for the air cleaner, this may still clear the formula hood?
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#36
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One of the links in post #2 is to a thread by board member who placed an order for the system. The short of it is a simple thin plate adapter will not work on a factory spreadbore intake, one has to use the thick (.75-1") adapter. I spoke with Ken at FiTech and he confirmed this -he also said he will update the site with this info as it only fits some spreadbore intakes with the thin plate.
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Will Rivera '69 Firebird 400/461, 290+ E D-Ports, HR 230/236, 4l80E, 8.5 Rear, 3.55 gears '64 LeMans 400/461, #16 Heads, HR 230/236, TKO600, 9inch Rear, 3.89 gears '69 LeMans Vert, 350, #47 heads: Non-running project |
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71 Formula 433, Splayed cap 400 block, 4" stroke Scat forged crank, 6.8 Eagle rods, custom Autotec pistons. SD 295 KRE D ports, Old faithful hybrid roller, Torker II, Holley Sniper Stealth, Tribal Tubes, TKO 600, 3.73 Eaton posi. |
#38
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I could swear I saw in the video that it had a dual bolt pattern flange for square and spread bore.
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1978 Black & Gold T/A [complete 70 Ram Air III (carb to pan) PQ and 12 bolt], fully loaded, deluxe, WS6, T-Top car - 1972 Formula 455HO Ram Air numbers matching Julep Green - 1971 T/A 455, 320 CFM Eheads, RP cam, Doug's headers, Fuel injection, TKX 5 Spd. 12 Bolt 3.73, 4 wheel disc. All A/C cars |
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From FITech site: "The FITech Go EFI system will bolt directly to any 4-bbl intake manifold. To fit on a spread bore 4-bbl manifold will require an inexpensive adapter plate to avoid leaks. Note that the FITech throttle body will bolt directly to a spread bore intake manifold but may leak without the adapter plate" It then mentions the Summit SUM-G1420 plate.
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66 GTO, 495, M22, Strange S-60 w/4.10 Sold new at Ace Wilson's Royal Pontiac http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUHC-Z8xhtg |
#40
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I'm guessing that leak would be at the widest part of the secondaries. If that's the case I would think an eighth inch plate with two thin gaskets would do it. All conjecture of course without actually seeing things.
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1978 Black & Gold T/A [complete 70 Ram Air III (carb to pan) PQ and 12 bolt], fully loaded, deluxe, WS6, T-Top car - 1972 Formula 455HO Ram Air numbers matching Julep Green - 1971 T/A 455, 320 CFM Eheads, RP cam, Doug's headers, Fuel injection, TKX 5 Spd. 12 Bolt 3.73, 4 wheel disc. All A/C cars |
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