#1  
Old 04-07-2025, 12:19 PM
charlie66's Avatar
charlie66 charlie66 is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 3,329
Default Sonic tested 350ci

Is there any information out there on 350ci blocks stating their thicknesses in cylinder wall and main web thickness? Is there a better year than another? Do they run in line with the 400ci blocks or are they in a different league of their own.

Thank you

__________________
My Half AN Injun.....
  #2  
Old 04-07-2025, 12:36 PM
Jay S's Avatar
Jay S Jay S is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Nebraska City, Nebraska
Posts: 2,185
Default

76 and later 350s with the casting number starting with 500 had weak main webs. The earlier 350s have differences in cylinder scallops, on the both the intake and exh, IRC…the later post 1973 350s have just scallops on the exh only. The scallops are an easy way of identifying 350s. I don’t know of any cylinder wall thicknesses differences.

  #3  
Old 04-07-2025, 02:58 PM
charlie66's Avatar
charlie66 charlie66 is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 3,329
Default

Do you know if the earlier 350ci block mains are as good as the 400ci or are they weaker?

Thanks

__________________
My Half AN Injun.....
  #4  
Old 04-07-2025, 05:39 PM
Formulas Formulas is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: West Virginia
Posts: 3,112
Default

I have a 1970/350 the main webs are the same as any other 1970 V-8

__________________
If your not at the table you're on the menu
A man who falls for everything stands for nothing.
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Formulas For This Useful Post:
  #5  
Old 04-07-2025, 06:39 PM
charlie66's Avatar
charlie66 charlie66 is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 3,329
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Formulas View Post
I have a 1970/350 the main webs are the same as any other 1970 V-8
Ok, Thank you..

__________________
My Half AN Injun.....
  #6  
Old 04-07-2025, 07:05 PM
433lemans's Avatar
433lemans 433lemans is online now
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Near Sioux Falls SD
Posts: 246
Default

My memory fails me but years ago, I believe it was on the Classical Pontiac website when it was flourishing, someone was going to take a 350 block and cut thru I suppose with a big band saw in an effort to see how thick the cylinder walls are. Anyone here remember this?

  #7  
Old 04-07-2025, 07:19 PM
steve25's Avatar
steve25 steve25 is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Westchester NY
Posts: 16,132
Default

The block casting numbers for the 350 changed significantly in mid 75 just like they did in mid 75 when the 400 went to the thin wall main web’s.
So I would conclude that post Aug 75 is the cut off for a good 350 block.

Up until then the 350 block casting number had not changed for 2.5 years.

__________________
Wernher Von Braun warned before his retirement from NASA back in 1972, that the next world war would be against the ETs!
And he was not talking about 1/8 or 1/4 mile ETs!

1) 1940s 100% silver 4 cup tea server set.

Two dry rotted 14 x 10 Micky Thompson slicks.

1) un-mailed in gift coupon from a 1972 box of corn flakes.
Two pairs of brown leather flip flops, never seen more then 2 mph.

Education is what your left with once you forget things!

Last edited by steve25; 04-07-2025 at 07:26 PM.
  #8  
Old 04-07-2025, 08:57 PM
Formulas Formulas is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: West Virginia
Posts: 3,112
Default

On a 3 per side freeze plug block you can measure between the 2 center cylinders in the water jacket then measure bore to bore at the deck do some math to come up with a ball park wall thickness of course this would not account for core shift and sonic testing is king if your pushing limits

__________________
If your not at the table you're on the menu
A man who falls for everything stands for nothing.
  #9  
Old 04-08-2025, 02:35 AM
Dragncar Dragncar is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Humbolt County California
Posts: 8,745
Default

If you can find a 59-60 389 block those are known for being very thick and beefy.
If you can get around the starter issue.

  #10  
Old 04-13-2025, 11:22 PM
hurryinhoosier62 hurryinhoosier62 is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Floyd Co., IN/SE KY
Posts: 4,033
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragncar View Post
If you can find a 59-60 389 block those are known for being very thick and beefy.
If you can get around the starter issue.
Wilcap transmission adapter from Speed Gems. Not cheap, but does give the ability to use Chevy bolt pattern transmissions along with mounting the starter on the ‘59-‘60 389 blocks. Butler lists an adapter as well but I haven’t researched it.

__________________
“It takes considerable knowledge just to realize the extent of your own ignorance.”

Dr. Thomas Sowell
The Following User Says Thank You to hurryinhoosier62 For This Useful Post:
  #11  
Old 04-14-2025, 08:01 AM
sdbob sdbob is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Latrobe,Pa. USA
Posts: 2,682
Default

Local Pontiac dealer gave me a 75 350 block out of brand new A body. Service issue leaking coolant. There was a small crack below one of the freeze plugs. Bad casting maybe , I kept it then I junked it. I thought about trying to repair it.Its the only Pontiac V8 I experienced this with.

The Following User Says Thank You to sdbob For This Useful Post:
  #12  
Old 04-14-2025, 04:16 PM
Dragncar Dragncar is offline
Ultimate Warrior
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Humbolt County California
Posts: 8,745
Default

I threw away a perfect std bore 69 350 block. I wish I had kept it.
It was a fun street engine with 48s and a 2801.

The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Dragncar For This Useful Post:
  #13  
Old 04-14-2025, 04:31 PM
bdk1976 bdk1976 is offline
Chief Ponti-yacker
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Olympia, WA
Posts: 742
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 433lemans View Post
My memory fails me but years ago, I believe it was on the Classical Pontiac website when it was flourishing, someone was going to take a 350 block and cut thru I suppose with a big band saw in an effort to see how thick the cylinder walls are. Anyone here remember this?
I remember that thread, but don't recall if it ever came to fruition?

I scraped most of that site before it's demise and put it into a database, but there were some issues with the way it was structured/delimited so never did get a 'clean' personal archive. I may be able to search it for this thread if I have some time/inclination.

You can also access a lot of the site via the internet archive - may be able to find it there somehow.

The Following User Says Thank You to bdk1976 For This Useful Post:
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:35 PM.

 

About Us

The PY Online Forums is the largest online gathering of Pontiac enthusiasts anywhere in the world. Founded in 1991, it was also the first online forum for people to gather and talk about their Pontiacs. Since then, it has become the mecca of Pontiac technical data and knowledge that no other place can surpass.

 




Copyright © 2017