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Old 11-25-2010, 05:10 PM
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The 2+2 registry has 3 HO 4 speed verts I think
The Registry has only two '65 Convertible HO 4-speeds, and one with a 3-speed manual.
This car has 4-way flasher and rally guages - nice extras to have, especially if they were from the factory. The tach is a '66 model, with the redline. Early '65 tach would have a solid green RPM line. It was either added later, or replaced.
Shift knob should be black - GTO's were white.
If the PHS verifies that this car is correct, it would be a very desirable & rare car. If he has the original heads, and the car is mechanically sound & body rust-free, I'd put this car closer to $45-50K.

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Old 11-25-2010, 11:17 PM
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I did see that in the wanted section and I emailed him but I haven't got a responce yet. I was just over there to take some pics but my batteries were dead in the camera. Going back now to get the pics. I don't think he has those docs but I will find out. I believe he is a member of this site.

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Old 11-26-2010, 07:50 AM
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Is this the casting # you were talking about?
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I don't know if I can get the date code off the distributor pad. Do I have to pull the distributor to get it?

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Old 11-26-2010, 10:04 AM
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Just wanted to say along with everyone else "very nice car"!

You should be able to view the date code with one of those small mirrors on a stick, with a flash light.

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Old 11-26-2010, 10:11 AM
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Thanks, I'll try that.

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Old 11-26-2010, 12:07 PM
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Very nice car! What part of the country is it located, if I may ask?

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Old 11-26-2010, 12:57 PM
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Thumbs up Bills 2+2 re:Tachometer

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The tachometer in your photo belongs in a 66 full-size.
I have an equally nice 65 tachometer with the correct solid green RPM line if you would be interested in making a swap
I found out after I bought mine years ago that the tachometer was for a 1965 or early 66.
My 66 Bonneville is a late production 66.

Beautiful car either way, no matter what the PHS comes out to be!
I'm sure everyone on the forum would love to own it, including me!
I did promise my bride that my 66 Bonneville convertible was my LAST project.

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The 2+2 cars are Very Cool! The one that recently sold on ebay (link posted above) shows the steel vacuum line for the automatic coming up on the R.H. side of intake. Does anyone have pics showing how it connects around to the L.H. side of carbs?? Although this is my 66 GTO, you should still be able to view the block date looking down from outside between back of open hood and firewall. These pics just taken showing Nov. 29, 1965 date.
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You don't get the same view on a B-body.

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Old 11-26-2010, 02:21 PM
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The car is located in Connecticut.

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Old 11-26-2010, 02:41 PM
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You don't get the same view on a B-body.
My lack of knowledge on the Big Cats, sorry about that. Maybe as suggested above an extendable mirror and flash light?

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9773157 is a 64 421 block. Good news its a 421 block, bad news not a 65 block..Has been replaced in its life at sometime.
64 codes as follows
35B
38S
43N
44B
47S
49N
45B
46G
50Q
IMO it may have been a service replacement block that someone in the past restamped with the vin as the engine unit number.

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Old 11-26-2010, 06:34 PM
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The code I found by the distributor was J803. Any Ideas on that?

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9773157 is a 64 421 block. Good news its a 421 block, bad news not a 65 block..Has been replaced in its life at sometime.
64 codes as follows
35B
38S
43N
44B
47S
49N
45B
46G
50Q
IMO it may have been a service replacement block that someone in the past restamped with the vin as the engine unit number.

patrick

Patrick If it's a true early build it may have a 64 block in it. Older PHS will show an EUN for the block. IF all the dates line up on it I probably wouldn't question it.

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The code I found by the distributor was J803. Any Ideas on that?
Yes the date the block was cast. Jan=A Feb=B etc Pete McArthy had notation about I and J being used for September so It would be a Sept or Oct 8th of 1963 block in a car with a build date of 4th week November 65. The 0 is probably a 6 just very hard to tell sometimes
Really need the PHS now.

Interesting what Mike said. I learned something new. Thanks Mike.

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Old 11-27-2010, 09:39 AM
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I will get the PHS so I can verify everything. I will print it out today and see if I can fax them the info tomorrow. That did look like a 0 not a 6 but I will check again. I going to try to find the build sheet I just haven't had time.

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I will get the PHS so I can verify everything. I will print it out today and see if I can fax them the info tomorrow. That did look like a 0 not a 6 but I will check again. I going to try to find the build sheet I just haven't had time.


We, the pontiac community are so fortunate for this service. No other GM division has the records that PHS has.

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Old 11-27-2010, 11:04 AM
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It would be nice if all GM did. Not that it would help with my car as it's not stock. I'm more of a chevy guy but I love all the old cars. Here is a pic of my car on the lift next to the 2+2.
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Old 11-27-2010, 11:48 AM
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Looks like a bone-stock Camaro to me.

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