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Old 07-15-2021, 07:21 AM
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At 62 years young and been doing my bush machinic work on my beloved Darksider and previous Holden's on my back ,I think I have had enough.
I have been able to rough my way through everything, on my back for the past 45 years.

I wish I was a tradesmen.

Last weekend I wanted to fit a new starter motor, 2 days on my back and I could not make it fit, just impossible to grind a puffteenth of the block and put a dent in me Doug's coated headers working on my back.
My Thai princess saw me doing it hard and said "darling can I get you a little pillow ".

I have loved every minute and days it has taken me on my back to get the results to burn fuel down the highway's downunder.

I know what I gotta do,and I'm going to move to the country and I'm going to get that workshop with a hoist.

SO I KNOW THAT I AM NOT THE ONLY ONE ON MY BACK!

POST A PHOTO OF YOUR DOUBLE OR SINGLE GARAGE WORKSHOP.
I have a few to start.

I what to ask a question about a heatsink, no start problem I have with my Bonneville,
I have read everything posted for decades and I love them.

This thread will be my 67 Bonneville thread.
I love all 67's for some special reasons.

I'm now just driving and going to live Pontiac forever.

No kids, pet's, just a bucket list, country home with workshop with hoist and a trip to the states to attend all the Pontiac events and hopefully meet the people who have been so inspirational,friendly and patriotic to the brand.

The free advice is invaluable.
Thank you to all you men.

I learn something new every day.

It all helped me put together a Bonneville that can run down the M1 at 75 mph and has been never on a tow truck for 40,000 miles from the rebuild it got.
Our host plays a part in the market of things and is invaluable of course.

Time on your back you find so many things that will come to be needing attention soon enough, but I am not looking forward to doing it hard any more.
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Old 07-15-2021, 07:37 AM
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Some headers unfortunately are made for a stock lenght ( front to rear ) solenoid lenght area and will not except a aftermarket starter without some tube dent work.

That being said you just don't need a dent , but clearance. Other wise if the two touch the Exh heat can transfer into the mini starter solenoid with the same no start or failure out come as a stock starter.

The best way to dent a header tube while it's bolted up to the motor is with a good size OD socket sitting horizontal on top of a bottle jack in its concave groove, and sometimes depending on the angle of the header tube you may need to tack weld that socket to the pad of the bottle jack.

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I would of rebuilt the original starter, the trouble is finding a rebuilder with the skills.. Hope it works out for you..

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Thanks for the reply steve, you are one of men I did allude to that makes this place.
Yes the headers need just a massage with a ball pain hammer, I hate the thought of me belting it, missing it and smacking me in the face. Me On me back .
I have the original aftermarket starter still working most of time, it's 10 years old, of course I was hoping to fit any new high quality mini starter with out any issues but it is never the case,
This new starter is clockable and is slightly bigger,
Are they all Nippon Densow?they look like it.
To me that's not a problem.
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Old 07-15-2021, 08:38 AM
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Oh man, I feel your pain. I'll be 63 next month and l was sore for a week last month from working the better part of 2 days under the dash of my Datsun, knees on the floor hip on the rocker and torso turned near 180 in the foot well.
I do everything including full exhaust systems for both cars pictured and all maintenance to 4 daily drivers in this space. I would love to have a standalone building with a lift.

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Although sometimes a little "open air" wrenching is required....

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Someday I hope to install a hoist..my shop is 2 parts a 25 x 30 heated side with a bathroom..and a 40 by 30 "cold" side. The tranny swaps and exhaust installs are starting to get a little old...I feel your pain about your starter..my new Doug D ports are crap for clearance compared to my old Hookers.
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I used a Robbmc starter and positioned the solenoid down 180 degrees.[IMG]v[/IMG]

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Several years ago I decided if I was to continue messing with cars, doing my own work, i needed a hydraulic lift. Best decision I ever made. A lot easier to work with plus a lot of time saved not jacking, placing jack stands, etc. Need to make that investment as soon as you can. You will never regret it.

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I spent weeks on my back swapping the Turbo 400 out for my TKO...about 10 years ago. Today, at nearly 63 and with one metal and plastic shoulder, changing the oil is an odyssey.....but I'm blessed to be able to.

Would I tackle another transmission swap?

Maybe.

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Old 07-15-2021, 10:52 AM
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After years of hemming and hawing I finally bought a lift. Major problem at the time was a Vixen RV, 6300lbs and 148" wheelbase pusher. Had to handle that and a 94" wb Fiero. Not easy

Are three main types: two post, four post, and scissors. Since most of what I do involves removing wheels and tires I chose a medium rise scissors lift that was also "portable" (can roll it around). Being a two piston it has a 33" opening in the middle, plenty to drop a tranny., and a 7,000 lb rating. Can drop the ends for my short cars. Has trays on the bottom so rollers do not contact cement. It works for me.

Today the Atlas Kwik Bay 7000 would probably be my choice.

Rather than try to describe square feet, lets just say I have enough for seven cars, workshop, too many tires and wheels, and lotsa doors. A determined dig would probably unearth at least three engines and "several" transmissions.

ps let's just say I have over a decade on you.
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I'm currently doing it lying under the cars in a 2 car attached garage, but that's about to change with the purchase of the new home. Along with the addition of a garage and a pole building, the new pole building will be the workshop, while the oversize 6 car garage (on the left) will be for storage inside. Four acres with numerous out buildings (eight out buildings, beside the garage and pole building, if memory is correct).

I'm narrowing down the choice of a 10,000# 2 post lift, and hopefully will have it installed before the end of this year.

In case you missed the thread about the new home, here are a few pictures:









I get possession next Wednesday, on the 21st.

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I've been seriously considering one of those Padgett....

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Beautiful Bonneville!

I wish I had the pictures cause I spent lots of time on my back over the last 35 - I finally acquired a 2 post lift this pst February.
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Several years ago I decided if I was to continue messing with cars, doing my own work, i needed a hydraulic lift. Best decision I ever made. A lot easier to work with plus a lot of time saved not jacking, placing jack stands, etc. Need to make that investment as soon as you can. You will never regret it.

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I suppose it is one of those purchases, like a hydraulic floor jack, or an enclosed car trailer, where once you make it your think "why didn't I do this years ago?!"

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Yeah, wrenching is fun, when you have space. Finally got both cars in the garage at the expense of space to work on them. Got to pull one out to work on either.



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I'll be building a new 30 x 60 shop in the next couple of years, going to go with an in ground single or dual post commercial lift. Rotary or other commercial manufacturer.

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I have 4 cars in a three car garage...along with lawn mowers, snow blowers, etc. etc.

Getting a different car on the lift is a process.... Once done, it's ok. Then i have to reverse the process....sometimes.

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Nice thing about a mid-rise scissors lift is that many are portable and (relatively) easy to move around. They do not need drilling holes in the floor.
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