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I hate to admit. I've bought quite a few Chinese small engine carbs. So far they have worked great. You can't buy the parts to rebuild them for what a whole carb costs. Won't be buying anymore 4-barrels probably. Have three 800 cfm Q-jets, 800 cfm Holley spreadbore double pumper, mint 2 barrel, etc. Will be converting most everything to fuel injection.
Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't all these FITechs, Snipers,etc EFI units made in China and sometimes some assembly done in the USA?

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oh great - the red-headed-step-child of the Pontiac Ram Air carburetors is being copied...
So the cheapest option for someone who want's a legitimate RA Quadrajet, now has a cheaper alternative... lol

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Yeah, I forgot about those. Had a Olds dealer in the town where I lived in late 80's. I worked in a parts store. The Delta 88 and 98's with 307's did pretty well, till the end of their RWD run. My Dad had a 85 Impala with 305. That thing ran great and got 26 MPG.
Mom got a Caprice new in 1989, good car. Those 77-90 box Chevys are now starting to bring decent money.
But, by 1989 cars were much better than the early 80s models which were pretty bad.
The Olds 307s were good engines, just not the most powerful.

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China doesnt seem to have a W. Edwards Deming, so thats good for a while.
Unfortunately anyone can take classes in quality control online now.

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oh great - the red-headed-step-child of the Pontiac Ram Air carburetors is being copied...
So the cheapest option for someone who want's a legitimate RA Quadrajet, now has a cheaper alternative... lol
I wonder if Cliff has seen any of them.....

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Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't all these FITechs, Snipers,etc EFI units made in China and sometimes some assembly done in the USA?
Wouldn't be surprised. Covid Carbs Inc.! LOL!

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That is the first I have seen of a Chinese Q-Jet. I have used half a dozen Chinese small engine carbs with mixed results. All but one ran pretty decent, the one I couldn't get right, I just threw out and got a second one which ran OK. At $300.00 a pop, I would expect my Chinese Q-Jet to run properly which is about a 1 in a million chance, IMO. Q-jet is a very complex and intricate carburetor. There is just no way it would run like an OE one. I would love to have one to play with but unwilling to pay $300.00 to be disappointed.

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I've been looking at different carbs ever since we got out LeMans. The engine in it has an Edelbrock Performer intake with an unknown Quadrajet, apparently from an early Seventies Chev truck.
When I watch items on Ebay, such as a carburetor, it highlights other products available at the bottom of the web page. This one popped uo today.
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/284422522037...Cclp%3A2060778

Incredibley cheap. And maybe not the best quality. But who knows? I just don't know when this started, these cheap Pontiac carbs from China. Shocking.
I’m sure Shaker Jeff has a real Q-Jet he can fix you up with!!!

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I just noticed on E-bay a Q-jet from China being offered with a front inlet float bowl. Comes with a pile of jets, gaskets, and multiple throttle arms. Being marketed specifically as a GTO replacement and Pontiac. 400-428 engines. Possibly in a couple years, after lots of feedback and complaints, it may be a usable part. Hard to say. The Chinese do seem to listen, modify and improve over time much like the Japanese. Eagle brand engine hard parts were just terrible and not usable at all as delivered to the US for the first five years or so. They have gradually improved to the point where I have to re-work about 10% of their stuff before use. These carbs may be a similar situation. At least they have a front inlet.

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I’m sure Shaker Jeff has a real Q-Jet he can fix you up with!!!
His Forum ID is Shaker455 if you want to PM him.

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No surprise,I see they are making knock offs of the older big cc Husqvarna and Stihl chain saws,and they are junk

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I've been looking at different carbs ever since we got out LeMans. The engine in it has an Edelbrock Performer intake with an unknown Quadrajet, apparently from an early Seventies Chev truck.
When I watch items on Ebay, such as a carburetor, it highlights other products available at the bottom of the web page. This one popped uo today.
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/284422522037...Cclp%3A2060778

Incredibley cheap. And maybe not the best quality. But who knows? I just don't know when this started, these cheap Pontiac carbs from China. Shocking.
Looks more like a copy of a mid-70´s Chevy/GMC 454 Motorhome Q-jet.
Nowhere near a Pontiac style Q-jet.

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I could be wrong here, but I don't ever recall seeing a Chevrolet application, car or truck, big or small block using a front inlet Q-jet. I thought all Chevrolet and Cadillac applications used the side inlet and BOP applications were front inlet. Is this correct? If so, that's why I was so surprised to see a front inlet Chinese knock-off. Would love to get my hands on one to see how bad it really is.

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there were some front inlet Chev carbs;
I had one ages ago, iirc it was a 1976 truck application, 750cfm, and still used a mechanical divorced choke.

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there were some front inlet Chev carbs;
I had one ages ago, iirc it was a 1976 truck application, 750cfm, and still used a mechanical divorced choke.
That's why I try to be the last guy who says "never and always". With millions of units out there and hundreds of configurations, I am not completely surprised. It's always a weird feeling when a Ford or Mopar shows up with a Q-jet under the hood. But they both used them in limited applications from the factory.

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https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...e-results.html

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Interesting read with pics from Lars.
That was really well done. My hat's off to that gentleman. He knows his stuff.

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Interesting read with pics from Lars.
Thanks for that link. Exactly what I was looking for without spending my own money and time. A guy who understands carburetors going through a Chinese model and reporting results and repairs. Great stuff. Exactly the results I expected when first reading about these carburetors. But all is not lost or bad here. The castings are new and can be made to work. This is just like the Chinese connecting rods from Eagle when they arrived 15 years ago. They were terrible and not usable out of the box without a complete breakdown, recut the caps, and re-hone. But they were made of decent material and could be made to work. Now Eagle stuff has improved dramatically over the years to the point where only about 10% of their stuff needs to be re-worked before use. I expect these carburetors will get better and better over the next 10 years as hundreds of buyers complain about poor idle, super rich running and other driveability issues. In about 10 more years, they may have a viable option for the ever dwindling supply of good original cores.

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thanks for the link - it was a really good read!

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