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doug nash ratios
im looking at a used trans. Is there away to verify ratios from the serial number on the trans? it is an old one that says doug nash, not richmond.
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1969 carousel red firebird 455, richmond 5 speed 1964 540 gto 1971 lemans sport convertible 1972 Maverick under slow construction |
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i guess 5th is alwas 1:1 if it is a nash. Only Richmond introduced the OD
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1969 carousel red firebird 455, richmond 5 speed 1964 540 gto 1971 lemans sport convertible 1972 Maverick under slow construction |
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Since I own a couple of these things, One at my house for the 64 GTO and one at a friend's house for parts, here is the ratios you requested.
The GM street 5-speeds (made by DOUG NASH) came with 3.27, 2.13, 1.57, 1.23 and 1:1 gearing 26 spline input shaft and the good rear yoke (I believe from a Turbo 400 trans). The speedometer gear is on the Chevrolet side of the trans. Hurst made a decent shifter and Leonard Long made a great shifter. Gear Ratios were all the same for the NASH STREET TRANS EXCEPT THAT NASH DID OFFER A TRANS TO GM THAT WAS DIFFERENT AND HAD THE GOOFY RATIOS THAT GM WANTED FOR THE CORVETTE. He sold very few of those trans in production vehicles. I believe the trans was also a overdrive trans. Richmond took the failed GM Production Trans and sold some of those transmissions. (Failed on sales, not quality or durability.) Tom V.
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"Engineers do stuff for reasons" Tom Vaught Despite small distractions, there are those who will go Forward, Learning, Sharing Knowledge, Doing what they can to help others move forward. Last edited by Tom Vaught; 06-18-2020 at 04:05 PM. |
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thanls Tom
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1969 carousel red firebird 455, richmond 5 speed 1964 540 gto 1971 lemans sport convertible 1972 Maverick under slow construction |
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If it is an original Nash Richmond used to could verify what it was built with. They did my "race" version. Mine came with a Mopar input and output for GM and had 4th and 5th 1:1 since it was a "Stocker" transmission.
It is also easy to pop the cases open and count teeth or find a number and work down a chart what it is. I've got some charts and assembly manual I can copy if you need it.
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Skip Fix 1978 Trans Am original owner 10.99 @ 124 pump gas 455 E heads, NO Bird ever! 1981 Black SE Trans Am stockish 6X 400ci, turbo 301 on a stand 1965 GTO 4 barrel 3 speed project 2004 GTO Pulse Red stock motor computer tune 13.43@103.4 1964 Impala SS 409/470ci 600 HP stroker project 1979 Camaro IAII Edelbrock head 500" 695 HP 10.33@132 3595lbs |
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The Nash had about a 5 digit number stamped on the front/top of the cases.
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Skip Fix 1978 Trans Am original owner 10.99 @ 124 pump gas 455 E heads, NO Bird ever! 1981 Black SE Trans Am stockish 6X 400ci, turbo 301 on a stand 1965 GTO 4 barrel 3 speed project 2004 GTO Pulse Red stock motor computer tune 13.43@103.4 1964 Impala SS 409/470ci 600 HP stroker project 1979 Camaro IAII Edelbrock head 500" 695 HP 10.33@132 3595lbs |
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Doug Nash was a Skilled Trades Guy before he made his 7+ Million with the Doug Nash Transmission sale. I knew Doug personally and his second wife. He was involved in the very 1st Lightning Truck project I headed. In his later life he retired and owned two large fishing boats down in the Gulf of Mexico.
I mentioned earlier in this thread about his special Chevrolet Trans. Here is a write-up and picture of that trans. https://jalopnik.com/the-chevrolet-c...smi-1825119474 There is a nice picture of the trans in the article. The article also has a video and instructions on how to rebuild the 4+3 trans. Like I said it a earlier post, that trans does not resemble the Nash 5 speed trans at all. Tom V.
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"Engineers do stuff for reasons" Tom Vaught Despite small distractions, there are those who will go Forward, Learning, Sharing Knowledge, Doing what they can to help others move forward. |
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I can't speak of verifying ratios via serial # but here's a chart of what was available. The ones marked is what I have.
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VERY GOOD INFO ON ONE SHEET FOR THE CRASH BOX RACE TRANSMISSIONS.
There you go Skip, now you have a very good piece of info for your NASH Race Trans. Tom V. Thanks Bnick166
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"Engineers do stuff for reasons" Tom Vaught Despite small distractions, there are those who will go Forward, Learning, Sharing Knowledge, Doing what they can to help others move forward. |
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Just a little FYI..........Doug Nash had ONE Bad A$$ Bronco funny car back in the day!
GTO George |
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GTO George |
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Doug ran a Ford Comet with a 4 speed manual trans BEFORE he ran the Bronco built with a auto trans (3 speed). So NHRA has it right in the link attached and the Bronco never saw a Doug Nash 4 speed which came years later.
https://www.nhra.com/news/2015/remembering-doug-nash So I agree, I would call that a rumor and nothing more. Doug was involved in a lot of Pontiac Projects with Herb Adams, but he did special work with all three of the OEMs at the time. But enough History and Rumors. Tom V.
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"Engineers do stuff for reasons" Tom Vaught Despite small distractions, there are those who will go Forward, Learning, Sharing Knowledge, Doing what they can to help others move forward. |
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That DORF really started to fly after he put the blower on....great racing back then, not like now!
GTO George |
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Mine is now a 2.80, 2.22, 1.77, 1.33, 1.0. It does not have the "torsion bar'. Years ago the guys at Richmond even sent me a Nash assembly manual. I can tell you to work on one you need a GOOD large snap ring pliers. The stout snap rings will bend a cheap one!
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Skip Fix 1978 Trans Am original owner 10.99 @ 124 pump gas 455 E heads, NO Bird ever! 1981 Black SE Trans Am stockish 6X 400ci, turbo 301 on a stand 1965 GTO 4 barrel 3 speed project 2004 GTO Pulse Red stock motor computer tune 13.43@103.4 1964 Impala SS 409/470ci 600 HP stroker project 1979 Camaro IAII Edelbrock head 500" 695 HP 10.33@132 3595lbs |
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