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Old 06-17-2019, 01:40 AM
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When did they stop using the pot metal Firebird emblem that covers the window crank hole.
All the NOS ones I’ve seen on Ebay look plastic.
Does anyone make a metal reproduction one?

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Old 06-17-2019, 02:56 AM
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I'm thinking 74....was last year for metal......

I haven't seen any metal repro's.....just plastic...

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Old 06-17-2019, 09:29 AM
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I'm thinking 74....was last year for metal......

I haven't seen any metal repro's.....just plastic...
I’ve seen metal ones on 73’s and I’ve seen plastic ones on 73’s both original owner cars .

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Old 06-17-2019, 10:27 AM
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This may not be the correct place for this, but, does any have a spare metal one they would be willing to part with?

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Old 06-19-2019, 08:55 AM
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When did they stop using the pot metal Firebird emblem that covers the window crank hole.
All the NOS ones I’ve seen on Ebay look plastic.
Does anyone make a metal reproduction one?
I think the part number was an early 1970 Car only part number. Superseded in late 70 by the plastic one. Every early 1970 bird I have seen will have the cast metal window crank covers. They are rare. I have not seen these on 71 and up cars that are original. Have seen these on later cars that someone bought or found some and swapped. They are nice. I have an NOS set for my early 70 TA. Just my observation.

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They were definitely used till 73...at least.....

Early production 70's with power windows.......had NO hole in door panel....for crank...or emblem....

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Early production 70's with power windows.......had NO hole in door panel....for crank...or emblem....
this sounds to me to be correct.

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Old 06-20-2019, 10:15 AM
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I have one that needs TLC. I think they have 3 posts on back, two on top, one on bottom? The bottom one is broke off on mine. The bird silver is wore, but I think they are the same as dash panel bird and if repo'd could be changed. Or silver re-lined to edges on this one.

you are welcome to it, not sure it is better than none

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Ken - there /\ /\ is your answer!

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Old 06-21-2019, 09:54 AM
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Mine has a screw though it so that’s an offer I can’t refuse.
Anthony I Sent you a PM.

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Just curious..Does anyone have a pic of one of these, or do they appear the same as the later plastic versions?

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Pics of the one without the screw and a plastic one.
The biggest differences other than weight is the outer rim is machined and wider than the plastic one and the pebble grain background is slightly different.
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Here's a pair on ebay.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1970-1981-F...temCondition=4

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I'm pretty sure those are the latter plastic ones.

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2009 Cobalt SS: 13.9 @ 103mph (current DD; makes something north of 300hp & 350ft/lbs)
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